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Are people in the US aware that they are now definitely a rogue state, or is this fact simply covered up by the usual patriotism?

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    We’re aware. People who get all their news from Fox or ignore politics in general probably aren’t but even my conservative family members are embarrassed about the threats to Canada and Greenland. Canadians are generally considered super nice and polite by Americans so pissing then off crossed a line.

    There’s elections in several states today that will provide some data to know more. Louisiana had an election on Saturday and rejected 4 constitutional amendments supported by Republicans. None even got 40%. Louisiana is an oddball state so I’m not sure it’s a harbinger of today’s elections but if voters in Wisconsin and elsewhere vote like Louisiana, it’ll be very telling.

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      Those of us who aren't Team Orange or completely oblivious know, I think. An appalling number of people are completely disconnected from what's happening, and a disgusting number either don't care or love it.

      I lost the last shred of faith I had in the American people with this election. I delight in the suffering of every shithead that either voted Trump, 3rd party, or not at all. ESPECIALLY the protest voters, conservative minorities, and rural idiots stupid enough to think Trump cared about them or was somehow a better because they didn't like something the Biden administration did. My schadenfreude levels are hitting new, bitter peaks there.

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      • lorski@sopuli.xyzL [email protected]

        Our media is in cahoots with the Trump Admin, so what do you think?

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        Any way you look at it, it's broken.

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        • tacobuttplug@sh.itjust.worksT [email protected]

          In the Los Angeles Mexican community no one is fucking aware. In the Chicago black community no one is fucking aware. I'm sick of the people in this shit hole. They are happy as long as they have their bread and circus, no matter what.

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          Same from my view. No one cares or understands. No one talks about this stuff. And if they do it's the same useless sound bite drama talk that's been meaningless for the past 15 years. Just entertainment.

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            So to be clear, you believe Jill Stein voters to be representative of the ones "doing jack shit"? Am I understanding you correctly?

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            Anyone who didn't think genocide was an entirely negotiable part of the platform/a wedge issue nuisance, basically. There were some Jill Stein voters there, some PSL voters, some non voters who are otherwise politically active.

            I've yet to see democrat leadership organizing for a general strike or advocating for civil disobedience, unlike those others mentioned.

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              I see the American media as softballing fascism, or they're just outright complicit.

              No one will call shit what it is, and every fucking thing in the news needs to be both-sides-ed.

              This doesn't help with the less educated grasping these basic concepts, nor does the massive stigmatization of intelligence and critical thinking, nor does the attacks on institutional education.

              There's laws constantly being passed in the form of 'vouchers' to drain public school funds and funnel American kids into Christian indoctrination, and our public schools are now dramatically underfunded.

              So I guess I understand why more than half the population just straight up ignores politics. because reality here is really depressing.

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              • dandomrude@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                You must be male, white, and a US citizen, I assume ... and you are obviously ill-informed.

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                I'm female. And I'm not ill informed. Love to know what human rights we suppress.

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                  Americans for the most part are only dimly aware there's an outside world in the first place.

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                  • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.comD [email protected]

                    […] now that the US is directing their usual behavior towards white Europeans.

                    That's nothing new, that's happened before.

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                    Then explain the shock coming from Europe.

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                      We’re aware. People who get all their news from Fox or ignore politics in general probably aren’t but even my conservative family members are embarrassed about the threats to Canada and Greenland. Canadians are generally considered super nice and polite by Americans so pissing then off crossed a line.

                      There’s elections in several states today that will provide some data to know more. Louisiana had an election on Saturday and rejected 4 constitutional amendments supported by Republicans. None even got 40%. Louisiana is an oddball state so I’m not sure it’s a harbinger of today’s elections but if voters in Wisconsin and elsewhere vote like Louisiana, it’ll be very telling.

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                      For international readers or Americans unfamiliar, Wisconsin has a state Supreme Court vote. It’s probably 50/50 and is the important one. Florida has 2 special elections for vacated House of Representative seats in Congress. The districts both voted heavily for Trump so the Republican candidate should win.

                      So, in Florida, don’t necessarily expect the Democrats to win. But if it’s even close, Republicans will be filling some diapers. They should be winning these districts by 20 or 30 points. Winning with 53% or whatever would be a really bad result for Republicans.

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                        Have of erica are horrified by it, and the other half think ita so.ething to be proud of, because theyre ignorant neanderthals.

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                        • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG [email protected]

                          Chuck "My job is to keep the left pro Israel" Schumer can save us.

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                          So Republicans still get a pass from .ml then. Good to know. You're all just agents

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                            We’re aware. People who get all their news from Fox or ignore politics in general probably aren’t but even my conservative family members are embarrassed about the threats to Canada and Greenland. Canadians are generally considered super nice and polite by Americans so pissing then off crossed a line.

                            There’s elections in several states today that will provide some data to know more. Louisiana had an election on Saturday and rejected 4 constitutional amendments supported by Republicans. None even got 40%. Louisiana is an oddball state so I’m not sure it’s a harbinger of today’s elections but if voters in Wisconsin and elsewhere vote like Louisiana, it’ll be very telling.

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                            I'm confused that polling seems to be neck and neck when the liberal candidate won by 11 percentage points last time around, her opponent sucked but an 11-point swing is wild here.

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                            • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                              Bullshit. It's easier than ever to know what's going on in the world. There is absolutely no excuse for not knowing how bad things are.

                              Not being able to do much of anything about it due to having to deal with day to day concerns, I get. But as an excuse for being ignorant? Absolutely not. That's a deliberate choice.

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                              I know people, who should know better, that don't know who to believe. This is when faced with both a verifiable source with a track record of accuracy, and an obviously cunning lone wolf with no substance to their argument.

                              For every genuine source, there is a dishonest one churning out disinformation faster than the genuine sources can because quality takes longer.

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                                Have of erica are horrified by it, and the other half think ita so.ething to be proud of, because theyre ignorant neanderthals.

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                                Try again when sober.

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                                  I'm confused that polling seems to be neck and neck when the liberal candidate won by 11 percentage points last time around, her opponent sucked but an 11-point swing is wild here.

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                                  Once it’s all tallied, something like $100 million will be spent on a single state’s judicial election. That is insane. Ten million would have been insane just a decade ago.

                                  I imagine that’s why things are close. A lot of voters are being bombarded with (mis)information. The people who are undecided probably have no idea what’s true or false.

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                                    We're successfully distracted by the more immediate personal problems they've created for us

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                                      Americans for the most part are only dimly aware there's an outside world in the first place.

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                                      I had a friend that that looked like they were offended when they found out Australian Idol was a thing and it wasn't just in America.

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                                        Try again when sober.

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                                        Op was at least right about Erica.

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                                        • modernangel@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                                          Lots and lots of people, actually. Many identify with the tough-talkin' images being projected, believing it's just what the world needs and that the magic sorting hat will assign them to the privileged class when the dust settles.

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                                          "...that's what America needs, a businessman."

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