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European police say KidFlix, "one of the largest pedophile platforms in the world," busted in joint operation.

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  • T [email protected]

    Does it feel odd to anyone else that a platform for something this universally condemned in any jurisdiction can operate for 4 years, with a catchy name clearly thought up by a marketing person, its own payment system and nearly six figure number of videos? I mean even if we assume that some of those 4 years were intentional to allow law enforcement to catch as many perpetrators as possible this feels too similar to fully legal operations in scope.

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    It would feel odd, but you have to remember we live in a world where Epstein was allowed to get away with what he did until the little people found out.

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      The objective now is to ensure that the distribution of this disgusting material is stopped outright and that no further children are harmed.

      Sure, it'll only cost you every bit of your privacy as governments make illegal and eliminate any means for people to communicate without the eye of Big Brother watching.

      Every anti-privacy measure that governments put forward is always like "We need to be able to track your location in real time, read all of your text messages and see every picture that your phone ever takes so that we can catch the .001% of people who are child predators. Look at how scary they are!

      Why are you arguing against these anti-pedophile laws?! You don't support child sex predators do you?!"

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      Then end up USA

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        They also seized 72,000 illegal videos from the site and personal information of its users, resulting in arrests of 1,400 suspects around the world.

        Wow

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        1,393 suspects identified
        79 suspects arrested
        Over 3,000 electronic devices seized
        39 children protected

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          That’s unfortunately (not really sure) probably the fault of Germanys approach to that.
          It is usually not taking these websites down but try to find the guys behind it and seize them. The argument is: they will just use a backup and start a “KidFlix 2” or sth like that.
          Some investigations show, that this is not the case and deleting is very effective. Also the German approach completely ignores the victim side. They have to deal with old men masturbating to them getting raped online. Very disturbing…

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          And yet there are cases like Kim Dotcom, Snowden, Manning, Assange...

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          • D [email protected]

            And it didn't even require sacrificing encryption huh!

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            "See we caught these guys without doing it, thank of how many more we can catch if we do! Like all the terrorists America has caught with violating their privacy. ...Maybe some day they will."

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            • C [email protected]

              If you have stumbled on CP online in the last 10 years, you're either really unlucky or trawling some dark waters. This ain't 2006. The internet has largely been cleaned up.

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              not stumbled upon it but I've met a couple people offering it on mostly normal discord servers

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              • T [email protected]

                Who said anything about punishing the people hosting the sites. I was talking about punishing the people uploading and producing the content. The ones doing the part that is orders of magnitude worse than anything else about this.

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                I'd be surprised if many "producers" are caught. From what I have heard, most uploads on those sites are reuploads because it's magnitudes easier.

                Of the 1400 people caught, I'd say maybe 10 were site administors and the rest passive "consumers" who didn't use Tor. I wouldn't put my hopes up too much that anyone who was caught ever committed child abuse themselves.

                I mean, 1400 identified out of 1.8 million really isn't a whole lot to begin with.

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                  I once saw a list of defederated lemmy instances. In most cases, and I mean like 95% of them, the reason of thedefederation was pretty much in the instance name. CP everywhere. Humanity is a freaking mistake.

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                  I regularly see people on Lemmy advocating for pedophilia, at LEAST every 3 months as a popular, upvoted stance. I argue with them in my history

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                    You're just seeing "survivor's bias" (as nasty as that sounds in this case) not a general representation.

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                    No, there really are a lot of pedophiles on Lemmy

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                      If you have stumbled on CP online in the last 10 years, you're either really unlucky or trawling some dark waters. This ain't 2006. The internet has largely been cleaned up.

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                      Search "AI woman porn miniskirt," and tell me you don't see questionable results in the first 2 pages, of women who at least appear possibly younger than 18.

                      Fuck, the head guy of Reddit, u/spez, was the main mod of r/jailbait before he changed the design of reddit so he could hide mod names. Also, look into the u/MaxwellHill / Ghilisaine Maxwell conspiracy on Reddit.

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                        Then end up USA

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                        USA ain't got shit on the Eastern Bloc when it comes to sex trafficking.

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                        • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                          I regularly see people on Lemmy advocating for pedophilia, at LEAST every 3 months as a popular, upvoted stance. I argue with them in my history

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                          what he fuck I've never ran into anyone like that.don't even wanna know where you do this regularly

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                            Wouldnt this be so much better if we got hoteliers on board instead of individuals

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                            They're only concerned with the room fees.

                            Don't see, don't tell.

                            Sadly.

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                            • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                              No, there really are a lot of pedophiles on Lemmy

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                              idk im at like 7 months an the only time i was able to ctrl f "pedo" in your history was when you were talking about trump (which, fair) and then again about 4chan pedophiles (which, again).

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                              • O [email protected]

                                I imagine it's easier to catch uploaders than viewers.

                                It's also probably more impactful to go for the big "power producers" simultaneously and quickly before word gets out and people start locking things down.

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                                Hopefully, they went after the pimps and financiers.

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                                • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                                  I regularly see people on Lemmy advocating for pedophilia, at LEAST every 3 months as a popular, upvoted stance. I argue with them in my history

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                                  Gratefully, I've not experienced this.

                                  And I don't want to know where they are.

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                                    No, there really are a lot of pedophiles on Lemmy

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                                    There are a lot of pedophiles everywhere.

                                    Unfortunately, the really rich ones get away with it for a long time, and few get away with it forever.

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                                    • L [email protected]

                                      1.8m users, how the hell did they ran that website for 3 years?

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                                      Bribes, most likely. Until the wrong people (the Right People) became aware of it.

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                                        Kidflix sounds like a feature on Nickelodeon. The world is disgusting.

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                                          I used to work in netsec and unfortunately government still sucks at hiring security experts everywhere.

                                          That being said hiring here is extremely hard - you need to find someone with below market salary expectation working on such ugly subject. Very few people can do that. I do believe money fixes this though. Just pay people more and I'm sure every European citizen wouldn't mind 0.1% tax increase for a more effective investigation force.

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                                          Discovery of this kind of thing is as old as civilization.

                                          Someone runs their mouth, or you catch someone with incrimination evidence on them. Then you lean on them to tell you where to go.

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