European police say KidFlix, "one of the largest pedophile platforms in the world," busted in joint operation.
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And it didn't even require sacrificing encryption huh!
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I once saw a list of defederated lemmy instances. In most cases, and I mean like 95% of them, the reason of thedefederation was pretty much in the instance name. CP everywhere. Humanity is a freaking mistake.
wrote 5 days ago last edited byYou're just seeing "survivor's bias" (as nasty as that sounds in this case) not a general representation.
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Massive congratulations to Europol and its partners in taking this shit down and putting these perverts away. However, they shouldn't rest on their laurels. The objective now is to ensure that the distribution of this disgusting material is stopped outright and that no further children are harmed.
wrote 5 days ago last edited byThe objective now is to ensure that the distribution of this disgusting material is stopped outright and that no further children are harmed.
Sure, it'll only cost you every bit of your privacy as governments make illegal and eliminate any means for people to communicate without the eye of Big Brother watching.
Every anti-privacy measure that governments put forward is always like "We need to be able to track your location in real time, read all of your text messages and see every picture that your phone ever takes so that we can catch the .001% of people who are child predators. Look at how scary they are!
Why are you arguing against these anti-pedophile laws?! You don't support child sex predators do you?!"
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If you have stumbled on CP online in the last 10 years, you're either really unlucky or trawling some dark waters. This ain't 2006. The internet has largely been cleaned up.
wrote 5 days ago last edited byI don't know about that.
I spot most of it while looking for out-of-print books about growing orchids on the typical file-sharing networks. The term "blue orchid" seems to be frequently used in file names of things that are in no way related to gardening. The eMule network is especially bad.
When I was looking into messaging clients a couple years ago, to figure out what I wanted to use, I checked out a public user directory for the Tox messaging network and it was maybe 90% people openly trying to find, or offering, custom made CP. On the open internet, not an onion page or anything.
Then maybe last year, I joined openSUSE's official Matrix channels, and some random person (who, to be clear, did not seem connected to the distro) invited me to join a room called openSUSE Child Porn, with a room logo that appeared to be an actual photo of a small girl being violated by a grown man.
I hope to god these are all cops, because I have no idea how there can be so many pedos just openly doing their thing without being caught.
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That’s unfortunately (not really sure) probably the fault of Germanys approach to that.
It is usually not taking these websites down but try to find the guys behind it and seize them. The argument is: they will just use a backup and start a “KidFlix 2” or sth like that.
Some investigations show, that this is not the case and deleting is very effective. Also the German approach completely ignores the victim side. They have to deal with old men masturbating to them getting raped online. Very disturbing…wrote 5 days ago last edited byI used to work in netsec and unfortunately government still sucks at hiring security experts everywhere.
That being said hiring here is extremely hard - you need to find someone with below market salary expectation working on such ugly subject. Very few people can do that. I do believe money fixes this though. Just pay people more and I'm sure every European citizen wouldn't mind 0.1% tax increase for a more effective investigation force.
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Does it feel odd to anyone else that a platform for something this universally condemned in any jurisdiction can operate for 4 years, with a catchy name clearly thought up by a marketing person, its own payment system and nearly six figure number of videos? I mean even if we assume that some of those 4 years were intentional to allow law enforcement to catch as many perpetrators as possible this feels too similar to fully legal operations in scope.
wrote 5 days ago last edited byIt would feel odd, but you have to remember we live in a world where Epstein was allowed to get away with what he did until the little people found out.
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The objective now is to ensure that the distribution of this disgusting material is stopped outright and that no further children are harmed.
Sure, it'll only cost you every bit of your privacy as governments make illegal and eliminate any means for people to communicate without the eye of Big Brother watching.
Every anti-privacy measure that governments put forward is always like "We need to be able to track your location in real time, read all of your text messages and see every picture that your phone ever takes so that we can catch the .001% of people who are child predators. Look at how scary they are!
Why are you arguing against these anti-pedophile laws?! You don't support child sex predators do you?!"
wrote 5 days ago last edited byThen end up USA
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They also seized 72,000 illegal videos from the site and personal information of its users, resulting in arrests of 1,400 suspects around the world.
Wow
wrote 5 days ago last edited by1,393 suspects identified
79 suspects arrested
Over 3,000 electronic devices seized
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That’s unfortunately (not really sure) probably the fault of Germanys approach to that.
It is usually not taking these websites down but try to find the guys behind it and seize them. The argument is: they will just use a backup and start a “KidFlix 2” or sth like that.
Some investigations show, that this is not the case and deleting is very effective. Also the German approach completely ignores the victim side. They have to deal with old men masturbating to them getting raped online. Very disturbing…wrote 5 days ago last edited byAnd yet there are cases like Kim Dotcom, Snowden, Manning, Assange...
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And it didn't even require sacrificing encryption huh!
wrote 5 days ago last edited by"See we caught these guys without doing it, thank of how many more we can catch if we do! Like all the terrorists America has caught with violating their privacy. ...Maybe some day they will."
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If you have stumbled on CP online in the last 10 years, you're either really unlucky or trawling some dark waters. This ain't 2006. The internet has largely been cleaned up.
wrote 5 days ago last edited bynot stumbled upon it but I've met a couple people offering it on mostly normal discord servers
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Who said anything about punishing the people hosting the sites. I was talking about punishing the people uploading and producing the content. The ones doing the part that is orders of magnitude worse than anything else about this.
wrote 5 days ago last edited byI'd be surprised if many "producers" are caught. From what I have heard, most uploads on those sites are reuploads because it's magnitudes easier.
Of the 1400 people caught, I'd say maybe 10 were site administors and the rest passive "consumers" who didn't use Tor. I wouldn't put my hopes up too much that anyone who was caught ever committed child abuse themselves.
I mean, 1400 identified out of 1.8 million really isn't a whole lot to begin with.
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I once saw a list of defederated lemmy instances. In most cases, and I mean like 95% of them, the reason of thedefederation was pretty much in the instance name. CP everywhere. Humanity is a freaking mistake.
wrote 5 days ago last edited byI regularly see people on Lemmy advocating for pedophilia, at LEAST every 3 months as a popular, upvoted stance. I argue with them in my history
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You're just seeing "survivor's bias" (as nasty as that sounds in this case) not a general representation.
wrote 5 days ago last edited byNo, there really are a lot of pedophiles on Lemmy
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If you have stumbled on CP online in the last 10 years, you're either really unlucky or trawling some dark waters. This ain't 2006. The internet has largely been cleaned up.
wrote 5 days ago last edited bySearch "AI woman porn miniskirt," and tell me you don't see questionable results in the first 2 pages, of women who at least appear possibly younger than 18.
Fuck, the head guy of Reddit, u/spez, was the main mod of r/jailbait before he changed the design of reddit so he could hide mod names. Also, look into the u/MaxwellHill / Ghilisaine Maxwell conspiracy on Reddit.
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Then end up USA
wrote 5 days ago last edited byUSA ain't got shit on the Eastern Bloc when it comes to sex trafficking.
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I regularly see people on Lemmy advocating for pedophilia, at LEAST every 3 months as a popular, upvoted stance. I argue with them in my history
wrote 5 days ago last edited bywhat he fuck I've never ran into anyone like that.don't even wanna know where you do this regularly
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Wouldnt this be so much better if we got hoteliers on board instead of individuals
wrote 5 days ago last edited byThey're only concerned with the room fees.
Don't see, don't tell.
Sadly.
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No, there really are a lot of pedophiles on Lemmy
wrote 5 days ago last edited byidk im at like 7 months an the only time i was able to ctrl f "pedo" in your history was when you were talking about trump (which, fair) and then again about 4chan pedophiles (which, again).
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I imagine it's easier to catch uploaders than viewers.
It's also probably more impactful to go for the big "power producers" simultaneously and quickly before word gets out and people start locking things down.
wrote 5 days ago last edited byHopefully, they went after the pimps and financiers.