Russia Not on US Tariff List Despite Broad Global Reach | Sweden Herald
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Fairly sure that’s because Russia is heavily sanctioned by thr US already, alongside North Korea, Cuba, Iran etc.
Things are bad but let’s not spread hysteria.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byThat was also the official argument from Karoline Leavitt, spokesperson of the White House, although last years trading volume between Russia and the US still was about 3.5 billion USD (roughly three times of what Ukraine - US traded).
The question whether tariffs for Russia makes sense or not is rendered meaningless given the fact that the whole tariff plan is just wild (super small countries with a mimiscule part of trading volume still got heavily sanctioned etc).
You are right that we should not spread hysteria, but we should still question statements coming from government officials.
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The US has 3.5 billion in trade with Russia. The tariffs include Iran; Venezuela, etc... they also slapped them on countries which we have a trade surplus with.
It's also looking like they used chatgpt to write the list but then specifically omitted five countries. Russia, north korea,Korea, Cuba, Belarus. Russia and its fine closest allies. How can anyone see this and not think the Kremlin does t own the Epstein tapes
wrote 4 days ago last edited bythey released the JFK tapes! several times!
honestly i remain skeptical any "kompromat" on trump exists. or any Epstein documents remain that matter. we've all seen it
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The US has 3.5 billion in trade with Russia. The tariffs include Iran; Venezuela, etc... they also slapped them on countries which we have a trade surplus with.
It's also looking like they used chatgpt to write the list but then specifically omitted five countries. Russia, north korea,Korea, Cuba, Belarus. Russia and its fine closest allies. How can anyone see this and not think the Kremlin does t own the Epstein tapes
wrote 4 days ago last edited byIn terms of nations, I really have no idea what 3.5 billion means. Like is that a lot? I feel like we probably trade that much with China in like what, a week? A month, a day?
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they released the JFK tapes! several times!
honestly i remain skeptical any "kompromat" on trump exists. or any Epstein documents remain that matter. we've all seen it
wrote 4 days ago last edited byI was skeptical up until the tariffs. Now it's obvious they've got blackmail.
Alao an interview with epstein was leaked last year where he mentioned trump having sex on his plane. But in 2017 that clip was suppressed for some reason.
We know trump flew on that plane many times and that it was rigged with secret cameras
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I was skeptical up until the tariffs. Now it's obvious they've got blackmail.
Alao an interview with epstein was leaked last year where he mentioned trump having sex on his plane. But in 2017 that clip was suppressed for some reason.
We know trump flew on that plane many times and that it was rigged with secret cameras
wrote 4 days ago last edited byI doubt it's a blackmail thing, because at this point, not one of Trump's supporters would give a damn if it was clearly proven that Trump personally took CP pictures.
I think Putin just whispers sweet nothings into Trump's ear and controls him that way.
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I was skeptical up until the tariffs. Now it's obvious they've got blackmail.
Alao an interview with epstein was leaked last year where he mentioned trump having sex on his plane. But in 2017 that clip was suppressed for some reason.
We know trump flew on that plane many times and that it was rigged with secret cameras
wrote 4 days ago last edited byi wouldn't say trump wasn't a super gross Epstein buddy, we already know that.
"rigged with secret cameras", so what. where is it now.
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You can view this one of two ways, possibly both:
- Krasnov
- Trump apparently was doing these tariffs based on trade deficits (Which is stupid on its own, if your dentist doesn't buy the widgets you sell, that's not a tariff.), if Russia wasn't running one, then there you go.
To rebuke 2 I present the following- https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia
U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Russia in 2024 were $526.1 million, down 12.3 percent ($73.5 million) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from Russia totaled $3.0 billion in 2024, down 34.2 percent ($1.6 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Russia was $2.5 billion in 2024, a 37.5 percent decrease ($1.5 billion) over 2023.
Based on that math, with the CNN article I linked for the formula we get - (2,500,000,000 / 3,000,000,000) * 1/2 = 0.416666...
So Russia should have a 41% tariff.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byTrump seems to think the trade deficit is some sort of debt that we'll have to pay off in the future.
The overall goal of bringing manufacturing back to the US isn't necessarily a bad one, but this is probably the worst way to go about doing it. One article I read pointed out that it would take many years of consistent tariffs to generate that kind of interest and investment - but anyone with half a brain knows these tariffs could be gone tomorrow, so there's little inclination to actually try to build factories in the US based on this move. No reasonable investor would want to bet their company on Trump acting consistently.
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That was also the official argument from Karoline Leavitt, spokesperson of the White House, although last years trading volume between Russia and the US still was about 3.5 billion USD (roughly three times of what Ukraine - US traded).
The question whether tariffs for Russia makes sense or not is rendered meaningless given the fact that the whole tariff plan is just wild (super small countries with a mimiscule part of trading volume still got heavily sanctioned etc).
You are right that we should not spread hysteria, but we should still question statements coming from government officials.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byThat is less than sending 19 billion to Israel for free
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i wouldn't say trump wasn't a super gross Epstein buddy, we already know that.
"rigged with secret cameras", so what. where is it now.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byThere's nothing that explains what orange man is doing better than blackmail.
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Fairly sure that’s because Russia is heavily sanctioned by thr US already, alongside North Korea, Cuba, Iran etc.
Things are bad but let’s not spread hysteria.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byHow does this point keep coming up? It's been refuted like a dozen times in every post I see. Feels like intentional disinfo at this point.
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How does this point keep coming up? It's been refuted like a dozen times in every post I see. Feels like intentional disinfo at this point.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byYou can believe what you like but I’m not here to spread disinformation. Looking at the replies from other people I think I’m just misinformed and need to do more research. It’s possible to be wrong on the internet without it being tief up in a conspiracy.
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That was also the official argument from Karoline Leavitt, spokesperson of the White House, although last years trading volume between Russia and the US still was about 3.5 billion USD (roughly three times of what Ukraine - US traded).
The question whether tariffs for Russia makes sense or not is rendered meaningless given the fact that the whole tariff plan is just wild (super small countries with a mimiscule part of trading volume still got heavily sanctioned etc).
You are right that we should not spread hysteria, but we should still question statements coming from government officials.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byAgree with what you’re saying here and I think I need to do some more reading. Getting the impression that I’ve been misinformed/mislead.
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You can believe what you like but I’m not here to spread disinformation. Looking at the replies from other people I think I’m just misinformed and need to do more research. It’s possible to be wrong on the internet without it being tief up in a conspiracy.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byRight, but the number of people spreading the same wrong thing in multiple threads hours after they were openly provided direct info as to their error, starts to make it seem like a coordinated disinfo campaign.
Yes, it is possible to be wrong on the internet without a malicious intent. It's also possible to spread disinfo without being a malicious actor, since the whole point of disinfo is to get other people to take it up and spread it, occluding the real issue and disrupting genuine conversation about it.
For clarity, I am not accusing you of being a malicious or disingenuous actor here. No offense, but I doubt you arrived at your position in a vacuum, you probably heard it from somewhere else first I imagine?
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I doubt it's a blackmail thing, because at this point, not one of Trump's supporters would give a damn if it was clearly proven that Trump personally took CP pictures.
I think Putin just whispers sweet nothings into Trump's ear and controls him that way.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byA large part of their movement is based on aesthetics. And csam is probably a bridge too far for them. It just looks ugly. But I have no doubt many of them don't care about that either.
But from the blackmail angle, the public image of a sick pedo is not compatible with the orange man's public facing persona and his narcissism would make him the perfect blackmail target
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In terms of nations, I really have no idea what 3.5 billion means. Like is that a lot? I feel like we probably trade that much with China in like what, a week? A month, a day?
wrote 4 days ago last edited byHe tariffed countries with no people and trade deficits of thousands of dollars, and tariffed Ukraine.
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Now that is a lie. He only likes himself and Ivanka.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byI know. It’s insane.
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Trump seems to think the trade deficit is some sort of debt that we'll have to pay off in the future.
The overall goal of bringing manufacturing back to the US isn't necessarily a bad one, but this is probably the worst way to go about doing it. One article I read pointed out that it would take many years of consistent tariffs to generate that kind of interest and investment - but anyone with half a brain knows these tariffs could be gone tomorrow, so there's little inclination to actually try to build factories in the US based on this move. No reasonable investor would want to bet their company on Trump acting consistently.
wrote 4 days ago last edited by...pointed out that it would take many years of consistent tariffs to generate that kind of interest and investment...
That's the scary thing. Citrus-Hitler assumes he's gonna have himself and his policies in place for "many years of consistent tariffs."
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Maybe, but apparently we're tariffing multiple uninhabited islands. It would seem that active trade is not a perquisite for tariffs these days. can't be having people move out there and not getting tariffed in the future.
I hope he puts tariffs on Mars next. Maybe after he falls out with musk.
wrote 4 days ago last edited byMan the Sentinelese are gonna be pissed when they learn about this.
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It's more obvious than a sunrise that Trump doesn't work for America.
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Right, but the number of people spreading the same wrong thing in multiple threads hours after they were openly provided direct info as to their error, starts to make it seem like a coordinated disinfo campaign.
Yes, it is possible to be wrong on the internet without a malicious intent. It's also possible to spread disinfo without being a malicious actor, since the whole point of disinfo is to get other people to take it up and spread it, occluding the real issue and disrupting genuine conversation about it.
For clarity, I am not accusing you of being a malicious or disingenuous actor here. No offense, but I doubt you arrived at your position in a vacuum, you probably heard it from somewhere else first I imagine?
wrote 4 days ago last edited byIt's a logical conclusion from quack, imo. It's the second thing that came to my mind after the obvious 'oh duh cause he's Russias agent'