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RFK Jr.’s FDA chief says diabetics should take cooking classes instead of insulin

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  • Z [email protected]

    A ton of T2 diabetes is about lifestyle and not much else that’s still absolutely not a reason to deny a person medical care! What’s next? Denying cancer care if they say it happened because of your lifestyle? It’s amoral

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    Well think about why they're arguing this point. Break it down logically. What are you actually saying. Like when your wife gets mad you didn't take out the garbage. Is it really about the garbage or is she mad you banged her sister. There's usually a deeper issue at the root and you need to find that core belief. This is about the appearance of health and virirlity. They feel victimhood always and so they project strength. T2 Diabetes is a target because of the implication. My wife is mad because her sister is hotter. It's all about the root.

    Once you know the root, you can target their insecurity.

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    • vandals_handle@lemmy.worldV [email protected]

      Type 2 is not only preventable but reversible (either completely or enough to massively reduce insulin dependency).

      They say this works for some, not all individuals.

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      Yep there is a point of no return.

      I hate to say it, because it’s such a swallow-the-spider, but I hope GP1s are able to help humans overcome food marketing and processed food bullshit. I’m on one myself and it helps me make better decisions because my sugar cravings aren’t leading me around by the nose. As a result I hope to avoid diabetes.

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        Good point, let's stop giving people insulin.

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        Obviously diabetics still need medical care.

        You late for your job at the circus?

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          Yep there is a point of no return.

          I hate to say it, because it’s such a swallow-the-spider, but I hope GP1s are able to help humans overcome food marketing and processed food bullshit. I’m on one myself and it helps me make better decisions because my sugar cravings aren’t leading me around by the nose. As a result I hope to avoid diabetes.

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          Keep at it, it can help prevent. Even if it does not prevent it can make symptoms less severe. Also long sessions of cardio are very helpful, hikes and bike rides can be fun ways to get cardio but treadmill and stationary bike work as well.

          Source: ADA volunteer who knows hundreds that manage their levels and symptoms with diet and exercise and some that can't. Became a volunteer after losing a close relative that refused to change lifestyle.

          Edit: there/their/they're

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          • M [email protected]

            Can we head them off at the pass?

            No. Never.

            Can it come to pass that their heads come off?

            “All of this has happened before, and it will all happen again.”

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            No. R3v0luti0n is impossible in a postindustrial society.

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              To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
              It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

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                He should take a look at reality maybe?

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                  #86

                  Wouldn't they still need insulin though? Even if in lesser quantities.

                  Not against state funded mandatory cooking classes though if it'll help people eat healthier alongside insulin, though.

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                    Wouldn't they still need insulin though? Even if in lesser quantities.

                    Not against state funded mandatory cooking classes though if it'll help people eat healthier alongside insulin, though.

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                    Type I and II diabetes (mellitus) are different diseases and insulin use isn’t simple enough that diet recommendations (which every diagnosed diabetic probably already knows) are a magical missing piece for RFK Jr.

                    People with type I are deficient in insulin and it’s part of treating the disease right away. Insulin is used for people with type II, who aren’t deficient but can’t use insulin well, later in the disease progression if other treatments are no longer effective.

                    If a person with type II diabetes is on insulin, diet was probably treatment number one and has probably already failed or isn’t effective enough.

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                      RFK is enacting Aktion 74 as part of the construction of the american reich.

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                        You know, during ww2 when Britain enact very harsh rationing the rate of diabetes and heart disease did drop greatly. Because many fatty staples and meat were hard to come by and sugar was nearly nonexistent.

                        But you know what was instrumental in increasing life expectancy by almost 10 years almost overnight? The NHS after the war. Even when rationing fully ended in the late 50s life expectancy continued to be much higher despite all the previously hard to get stuff becoming readily available again.

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                          Maybe investigate dishwashing liquid.... Could that stuff be part of the cause for obesity and diabetes?

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                            Type 2 is not only preventable but reversible (either completely or enough to massively reduce insulin dependency).

                            They say this works for some, not all individuals.

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                            They say this works for some, not all individuals.

                            That could be a matter of compliance, obesity, or other factors (i.e. not diet alone).

                            Regardless, if the majority of people could be helped with lifestyle intervention, then that should be the priority over pharmacological treatment.

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                              To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
                              It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

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                              Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her.

                              Part of her plan would have banned Cheerios in schools because of added salt. That was one of the things getting pushback.

                              Her initiative to get added sugars listed on nutrition labels had very broad support.

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                                To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
                                It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

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                                It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon’s cabinet.

                                Not really. Anyone who actually wants to support Trump automatically falls into that group.

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                                  No. R3v0luti0n is impossible in a postindustrial society.

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                                  So was a housing price crash, until 2008.

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                                    To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
                                    It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

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                                    To be fair

                                    Well there's your problem. Never hand it to fascists (or grifters, or cult leaders, etc. — basically any kind of bad faith actors).

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      They get away with this shit because a lot of us don't actually engage them back in places that matter. Sure we all talk here but it's not like we're very visible. Right now, and for the next year, this comment will be shared on all other social media with a gaggle of agreement. But we will forget this by tomorrow. So they can saw say whatever they want really

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                                      For some reason Millennials decided that engaging them back was bad because it legitimatized them or something.

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                                        For some reason Millennials decided that engaging them back was bad because it legitimatized them or something.

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                                        Seriously, I'm glad I'm not the only one that sees this. As an old head, it's so different. Lefty's today seem very passive. They're twice as vocal but barely any effort. I think they love protesting so much because it lets them go hide in a crowd for a few hours. It's the 5k of civic participation. Maybe coming up in the early days of the internet we all actively engaged and created our own stuff. There weren't content creators we would sit and watch create stuff for us.

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                                          To be fair, our western diet of mainly cheap non-nutritive carbs suck. America needs desperately to change their diet but when Michelle Obama tried to encourage better eating habits the Republicans attacked her. JFK jr, on the other hand is totally nuts.
                                          It must have been quit a challenge to find the most incompetent losers to fill the failed, fucked-up, fat, fascist, felon's cabinet.

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                                          There's no need to be fair here. Insulin is absolutely essential for diabetics, and the head of the FDA trying to proclaim that cooking classes are a viable alternative is nonsense. For type 1 diabetics, no amount of healthy eating is going to get their body to produce insulin. For type 2 diabetics, it is possible to eventually get to a point where you can be stable without insulin, but not for everybody and not right away. Insulin treatment is the only way to survive with diabetes for an extended period of time, and the focus needs to be on ensuring that insulin is both affordable and accessible.

                                          Yes, there are things to improve in our food supply, but don't let that distract from how egregiously insane his comments are about diabetes.

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