China is Systematically Dismantling Tibetan Monastic Traditions
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So you were pushing anti-communist propaganda all along and had all these cocksure anti-PRC beliefs already but disguised them as care for feudal theocratic brainwashing of minors? So you can't really argue about literally anything I said like Tibet having a local government of Tibetan communists that you discount entirely because you're an anticommunist shill and not because you care about anything other than manufacturing anti-PRC consent? So you do this using articles from explicitly pro-western propaganda sites like the one above but would never consider checking the other side and yet you call others "cock sure"? So you're so clueless enough to mix up leninism with maoism even though neither invalidate Tibet having a Tibetan government anyway? So unless a nation is an ethnostate there's oppression happening? So only voting for bougie duopoly parties every four years is "democratic" but open access to constant voting and decision making through local governments available to all citizens who want to get involved isn't democratic because Murican crapitalism doesn't operate like that? So you have far far less political representation than anyone in PRC but you want to yap about representation lmao? So you want to bring up the Uyghurs while the source for that is still crappy CIA propaganda and it's actually about religious extremists that you otherwise lock up in Guantanamo when they turn against you? So you keep somehow siding with religious anti--freedom fanatics? So you're so concerned about a state making sure that religious authorities don't end up acting like a political Trojan horse while the West is constantly legislating censorship and repression and cracking down on demonstrations against real genocidal foreign policy and supporting genocidal colonial states? So you almost definitely have never done anything or even posted anything about the liberation of colonized Guam but yet you're yapping about PRC being "imperialist" as if the Tibetans themselves aren't part of their own administration? All I'm asking for is consistency!
I predict crickets like before. But let's go deeper.
So you're either clueless or a liar and don't know that Chinese officials are literally all elected but you imagine who knows what sort of magical appointment by the ghost of Mao probably? So you're almost definitely going to whine about lack of "legitimate" elections in the PRC because it's a single party system as if having two parties that also vet and preapprove their candidates is better outside your propaganda? So you don't know that all levels of government and the party itself are open and you don't need millions to run unlike Murica, making them more democratic institutions because what you really want are pro-calitalist wreckers being allowed to run to turn China into a colony again so you can get cheaper goods in the west? So you clearly don't care about nations (and not just ethnostates) having sovereignty because you want cheaper crap and global dominance for your side at the expense of everyone else? So westerners get to complain about supposedly other nations not having enough democracy while simultaneously complaining about their own parties stealing elections all the time lol?
I've got better ones.
So you complain about whataboutism when the Tibetan issue is literal whataboutism lmao?
Bestest one: So the only valid voices are religious extremists who support western propaganda ( and not the Chinese Han, Tibetans, Uyghurs etc who support their government because you know, they have healthcare, employment, religious freedom AND freedom FROM religion, womens' rights and constantly increasing quality of life unlike the west that consistently loses all these things?
All I'm asking for is consistency.
Oh I forgot. So you either haven't heard or pretend not to know about the oppressed fanatical jihadi Uyghurs active in Syria as Al Qaeda forces? So you're saying that the PRC should embrace Al Qaeda because you clearly support and care about its members? We can talk about the Uyghurs all you want lol, it's you who'll dodge the subject.
I qualify as a communist, why would I be pushing anti-communist propaganda. I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of leninism. You're not a communist.
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Thank you for blessing us with one of your alt accounts. Tell us how this is all fake news and that in China, people sing all day and praise the beloved Pooh bear for his beauty and wisdom.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The person you are replying to left a "cricket" emoji (it was actually generic bug because they weren't aware that a specific cricket emoji exists). They are clearly agreeing with your original point about how MLs are oddly quiet in circumstances like this. I get that it's super easy to become hypervigilant towards bad faith discourse in online discussions, but please take a step back and see that the only person trying to start an argument here is you
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The person you are replying to left a "cricket" emoji (it was actually generic bug because they weren't aware that a specific cricket emoji exists). They are clearly agreeing with your original point about how MLs are oddly quiet in circumstances like this. I get that it's super easy to become hypervigilant towards bad faith discourse in online discussions, but please take a step back and see that the only person trying to start an argument here is you
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True. It's Classic anti-Chinese propaganda brought by undereducated Westerners. They are, in fact, completely ignorant of the degenerate and backward practices of the Buddhists in this region.
ML not sucking up to China challenge: impossible
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I qualify as a communist, why would I be pushing anti-communist propaganda. I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of leninism. You're not a communist.
Pro-religious propaganda communist, sure buddy. Crickets about everything else as usual.
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And nothing of value was lost
Why doesn't a thousand year old culture matter to you? They work on peace and understanding oneself, and have never varied from that goal.
What would make that non-valuable?
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Pro-religious propaganda communist, sure buddy. Crickets about everything else as usual.
Quote a single thing I said that was pro religious. You love to build strawmen. But have nothing of actual value to say. Typical leninist.
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I'm all for shitting on tankies but I'm unsure what part of an all-male divine birthright theocracy they're supposed to support?
Except Tibet never got a chance to grow and adapt to the new world. You could literally say that about 90% of Asia which has a lot of problems but actually had the chance to grow because they were not violently occupied by a brutal invader.
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Its incredibly sad how Tibet was just completely forgotten in just a few years. Its legit scary how effective China is at conquest and the world should pay attention.
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Or other "western" nations. I've never knowingly met someone staunchly ml. That was from an area formerly or currently ml.
Talking to someone from China etc you generally will not hear them specifically shit on their government. Mostly because the government will come knocking and threatening violence as they did with Naomi. But you will catch them nervously deflecting to justifying it. Acknowledging it without speaking of it. Though even that could not save Naomi.
Hilariously Lemmy.ml is blocked in China. Where a lot of other Lemmy instances aren't strictly.
Its ironic that any support of communism is prevented by these radical idiots. I admit I'm quite sympathetic to the ideas found in Marxism though contemporary marxists are rotten apples that poison the entire barrel. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if CIA or some other propaganda machine is encouraging these crazies so communism is never being taken seriously by any normal human being.
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What is this website (is it reputable?) andwhy are Myanmar journalists the ones to discuss this, when they have a civil war to worry about? Is China supporting the opposite side to these journalists'? -
Quote a single thing I said that was pro religious. You love to build strawmen. But have nothing of actual value to say. Typical leninist.
Pro-religious thing you said? You're here whining about the rights of monks to brainwash kids and Uyghur jihadis lmao.
You've been incapable of answering any of my questions so far and switched to one liners? Typical shill.
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Pro-religious thing you said? You're here whining about the rights of monks to brainwash kids and Uyghur jihadis lmao.
You've been incapable of answering any of my questions so far and switched to one liners? Typical shill.
No I'm simply stating that changing one brainwashing for another is not helping. And the reason I haven't answered any of your questions is because you haven't asked any questions. You've been making a lot of false accusations.
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What is this website (is it reputable?) andwhy are Myanmar journalists the ones to discuss this, when they have a civil war to worry about? Is China supporting the opposite side to these journalists'?it's one of the best sources in Myanmar
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No I'm simply stating that changing one brainwashing for another is not helping. And the reason I haven't answered any of your questions is because you haven't asked any questions. You've been making a lot of false accusations.
US foreign policy shill pretending to be a communist but defending Al Qaeda jihadis pretends not to know what question marks are.
So are you saying that your brainwashing is "objective" even though you're a Fox News "communist"? All I'm asking for is consistency.
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Its incredibly sad how Tibet was just completely forgotten in just a few years. Its legit scary how effective China is at conquest and the world should pay attention.
Wasnt Tibetan society like 90% slaves working for the monastic rulers?
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What is this website (is it reputable?) andwhy are Myanmar journalists the ones to discuss this, when they have a civil war to worry about? Is China supporting the opposite side to these journalists'?China is a direct neighbour of Myanmar, with a history of political meddling in Myanmar and also of setting up illegal exploitative businesses by entrepreneurs. But even without the meddling, they are direct neighbours, which should be enough reason for Myanmar journalists to want to know what is going on in China.
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China is a direct neighbour of Myanmar, with a history of political meddling in Myanmar and also of setting up illegal exploitative businesses by entrepreneurs. But even without the meddling, they are direct neighbours, which should be enough reason for Myanmar journalists to want to know what is going on in China.
Huh, I thought every conflict in the world was the fault of the US...welcome to the multipolar world I guess
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Huh, I thought every conflict in the world was the fault of the US...welcome to the multipolar world I guess
Fault? I didn't mean to imply that China is responsible for starting the latest bout of civil war in Myanmar, because they weren't. There's really no reason to believe that whenever something bad happens, some outside big boogeyman is entirely to blame. If you want to know what caused the current civil war to start, try looking it up, but please don't make assumptions.
If you can't look it up because of time constraints or other reasons, then accept that you don't know. It's impossible to know everything, so there's nothing wrong with not knowing some things. But imo not knowing something and knowing that you don't know, is a lot better than making assumptions and inventing alternate facts.
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Wasnt Tibetan society like 90% slaves working for the monastic rulers?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]A narrative that conveniently ignores that the Dalai Llama was, and is, more of a socialist than the CCP ever mustered to be and was always very much on board with reforming everything. Or, well, the current incarnation always was. The split only came after it became clear that tankies gonna tank, that is, the CCP cared less about the freedom of the people (both in a spiritual and material sense) than about having full control over a mineral-rich mountain fortress to build a military-industrial base that couldn't be shelled from the ocean. Tibet alas is, geographically, the Switzerland of the Himalayas. Another factor was the sheer popularity of the Llama in Tibet, spiritual leader + socialist is a sure-fire double whammy to popularity but threatened the party's prerogative of interpretation not to mention orthodox Marxist doctrine, opium for the people and everything.
You know what's the most absurd thing about all this, especially considering Marxist materialism? That the CCP is claiming that it can legislate on reincarnation. And not in the "yeah this is all BS" sense, that'd be par for the course, but in the "ok here is how it's going to be done" sense. Went so far as to accuse the Dalai Llama of blasphemy for suggesting that whether and how he reincarnates will be up to him. And I guess the CCP is stuck on insisting that incarnation is real because otherwise the can't blame the current Dalai Llama for the politics of his previous lives?
