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China is Systematically Dismantling Tibetan Monastic Traditions

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  • D [email protected]

    Thank you for blessing us with one of your alt accounts. Tell us how this is all fake news and that in China, people sing all day and praise the beloved Pooh bear for his beauty and wisdom.

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    #75

    The person you are replying to left a "cricket" emoji (it was actually generic bug because they weren't aware that a specific cricket emoji exists). They are clearly agreeing with your original point about how MLs are oddly quiet in circumstances like this. I get that it's super easy to become hypervigilant towards bad faith discourse in online discussions, but please take a step back and see that the only person trying to start an argument here is you

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      The person you are replying to left a "cricket" emoji (it was actually generic bug because they weren't aware that a specific cricket emoji exists). They are clearly agreeing with your original point about how MLs are oddly quiet in circumstances like this. I get that it's super easy to become hypervigilant towards bad faith discourse in online discussions, but please take a step back and see that the only person trying to start an argument here is you

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      This was not their intended message. šŸ¦—

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      • korsystems@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

        True. It's Classic anti-Chinese propaganda brought by undereducated Westerners. They are, in fact, completely ignorant of the degenerate and backward practices of the Buddhists in this region.

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        ML not sucking up to China challenge: impossible

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        • eldritch@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

          I qualify as a communist, why would I be pushing anti-communist propaganda. I'm simply pointing out your hypocrisy and the hypocrisy of leninism. You're not a communist.

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          Pro-religious propaganda communist, sure buddy. Crickets about everything else as usual.

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          • lorty@lemmy.mlL [email protected]

            And nothing of value was lost

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            Why doesn't a thousand year old culture matter to you? They work on peace and understanding oneself, and have never varied from that goal.

            What would make that non-valuable?

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            • P [email protected]

              Pro-religious propaganda communist, sure buddy. Crickets about everything else as usual.

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              Quote a single thing I said that was pro religious. You love to build strawmen. But have nothing of actual value to say. Typical leninist.

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              • T [email protected]

                I'm all for shitting on tankies but I'm unsure what part of an all-male divine birthright theocracy they're supposed to support?

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                Except Tibet never got a chance to grow and adapt to the new world. You could literally say that about 90% of Asia which has a lot of problems but actually had the chance to grow because they were not violently occupied by a brutal invader.

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                  Its incredibly sad how Tibet was just completely forgotten in just a few years. Its legit scary how effective China is at conquest and the world should pay attention.

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                  • eldritch@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                    Or other "western" nations. I've never knowingly met someone staunchly ml. That was from an area formerly or currently ml.

                    Talking to someone from China etc you generally will not hear them specifically shit on their government. Mostly because the government will come knocking and threatening violence as they did with Naomi. But you will catch them nervously deflecting to justifying it. Acknowledging it without speaking of it. Though even that could not save Naomi.

                    Hilariously Lemmy.ml is blocked in China. Where a lot of other Lemmy instances aren't strictly.

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                    Its ironic that any support of communism is prevented by these radical idiots. I admit I'm quite sympathetic to the ideas found in Marxism though contemporary marxists are rotten apples that poison the entire barrel. Frankly I wouldn't be surprised if CIA or some other propaganda machine is encouraging these crazies so communism is never being taken seriously by any normal human being.

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                      #84

                      What is this website (is it reputable?) and why are Myanmar journalists the ones to discuss this, when they have a civil war to worry about? Is China supporting the opposite side to these journalists'?

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                      • eldritch@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                        Quote a single thing I said that was pro religious. You love to build strawmen. But have nothing of actual value to say. Typical leninist.

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                        Pro-religious thing you said? You're here whining about the rights of monks to brainwash kids and Uyghur jihadis lmao.

                        You've been incapable of answering any of my questions so far and switched to one liners? Typical shill.

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                        • P [email protected]

                          Pro-religious thing you said? You're here whining about the rights of monks to brainwash kids and Uyghur jihadis lmao.

                          You've been incapable of answering any of my questions so far and switched to one liners? Typical shill.

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                          No I'm simply stating that changing one brainwashing for another is not helping. And the reason I haven't answered any of your questions is because you haven't asked any questions. You've been making a lot of false accusations.

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                          • gsus4@mander.xyzG [email protected]

                            What is this website (is it reputable?) and why are Myanmar journalists the ones to discuss this, when they have a civil war to worry about? Is China supporting the opposite side to these journalists'?

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                            it's one of the best sources in Myanmar

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                            • eldritch@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                              No I'm simply stating that changing one brainwashing for another is not helping. And the reason I haven't answered any of your questions is because you haven't asked any questions. You've been making a lot of false accusations.

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                              US foreign policy shill pretending to be a communist but defending Al Qaeda jihadis pretends not to know what question marks are.

                              So are you saying that your brainwashing is "objective" even though you're a Fox News "communist"? All I'm asking for is consistency.

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                                Its incredibly sad how Tibet was just completely forgotten in just a few years. Its legit scary how effective China is at conquest and the world should pay attention.

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                                Wasnt Tibetan society like 90% slaves working for the monastic rulers?

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                                • gsus4@mander.xyzG [email protected]

                                  What is this website (is it reputable?) and why are Myanmar journalists the ones to discuss this, when they have a civil war to worry about? Is China supporting the opposite side to these journalists'?

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                                  China is a direct neighbour of Myanmar, with a history of political meddling in Myanmar and also of setting up illegal exploitative businesses by entrepreneurs. But even without the meddling, they are direct neighbours, which should be enough reason for Myanmar journalists to want to know what is going on in China.

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                                  • R [email protected]

                                    China is a direct neighbour of Myanmar, with a history of political meddling in Myanmar and also of setting up illegal exploitative businesses by entrepreneurs. But even without the meddling, they are direct neighbours, which should be enough reason for Myanmar journalists to want to know what is going on in China.

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                                    Huh, I thought every conflict in the world was the fault of the US...welcome to the multipolar world I guess šŸ˜•

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                                    • gsus4@mander.xyzG [email protected]

                                      Huh, I thought every conflict in the world was the fault of the US...welcome to the multipolar world I guess šŸ˜•

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                                      Fault? I didn't mean to imply that China is responsible for starting the latest bout of civil war in Myanmar, because they weren't. There's really no reason to believe that whenever something bad happens, some outside big boogeyman is entirely to blame. If you want to know what caused the current civil war to start, try looking it up, but please don't make assumptions.

                                      If you can't look it up because of time constraints or other reasons, then accept that you don't know. It's impossible to know everything, so there's nothing wrong with not knowing some things. But imo not knowing something and knowing that you don't know, is a lot better than making assumptions and inventing alternate facts.

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                                      • D [email protected]

                                        Wasnt Tibetan society like 90% slaves working for the monastic rulers?

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                                        A narrative that conveniently ignores that the Dalai Llama was, and is, more of a socialist than the CCP ever mustered to be and was always very much on board with reforming everything. Or, well, the current incarnation always was. The split only came after it became clear that tankies gonna tank, that is, the CCP cared less about the freedom of the people (both in a spiritual and material sense) than about having full control over a mineral-rich mountain fortress to build a military-industrial base that couldn't be shelled from the ocean. Tibet alas is, geographically, the Switzerland of the Himalayas. Another factor was the sheer popularity of the Llama in Tibet, spiritual leader + socialist is a sure-fire double whammy to popularity but threatened the party's prerogative of interpretation not to mention orthodox Marxist doctrine, opium for the people and everything.

                                        You know what's the most absurd thing about all this, especially considering Marxist materialism? That the CCP is claiming that it can legislate on reincarnation. And not in the "yeah this is all BS" sense, that'd be par for the course, but in the "ok here is how it's going to be done" sense. Went so far as to accuse the Dalai Llama of blasphemy for suggesting that whether and how he reincarnates will be up to him. And I guess the CCP is stuck on insisting that incarnation is real because otherwise the can't blame the current Dalai Llama for the politics of his previous lives?

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          Fault? I didn't mean to imply that China is responsible for starting the latest bout of civil war in Myanmar, because they weren't. There's really no reason to believe that whenever something bad happens, some outside big boogeyman is entirely to blame. If you want to know what caused the current civil war to start, try looking it up, but please don't make assumptions.

                                          If you can't look it up because of time constraints or other reasons, then accept that you don't know. It's impossible to know everything, so there's nothing wrong with not knowing some things. But imo not knowing something and knowing that you don't know, is a lot better than making assumptions and inventing alternate facts.

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                                          Where did I say it was China's fault? Even if I was being sarcastic that for once it wasn't the US, how did you interpret that I said it had to be China?

                                          PS: ah, was it the multipolar world thing? Ok, I was thinking in the sense of post-US. I'm just surprised that for once there isn't a bunch of people blaming "the west" for it. Maybe that's why people don't care about it.

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