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    Yeah people get played by their biological urges and evolutionary psychology throughout the entire process. Even newborn babies are programmed to scream intermittently so that the parents are never well rested, and this is theorized to be to prevent the parents from producing another baby in quick succession who takes attention from baby #1.

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    Even newborn babies are programmed to scream intermittently so that the parents are never well rested

    As someone who has taken care of three newborns, that's not a requirement. If you put the infant on a regular two/three-hour feeding/changing cycle, they don't reflexively cry unless they're in some kind of physical distress.

    The trick is to execute that schedule, which is itself extremely exhausting, especially if you're exclusively breast feeding. When you've got two or more people handling feedings (especially with formula) then the baby is chill and parents get more sleep and everyone is much happier.

    Also, ffs, this is why both Mom and Dad need maternity leave. The job is 10x harder when one parent is working solo.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

      Speak for yourself.

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      We don't

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        The comments are totally going to be reasonable with this one😅

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          women's brains literally give them amnesia regarding the pain of childbirth, so they want another because they aren't traumatized and don't really remember the negative side because it'd be evolutionarily disadvantagous to be averse to procreating

          getting kicked in the nuts has so such evolutionary pressure, so male brains don't help out when it happens lol

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          So wouldn't that mean that child birth is less painful? Because pain receptors and memory are also evolutionary traits?

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            I know it's supposed to be a joke but this is such a common but braindead take

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            • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

              Even newborn babies are programmed to scream intermittently so that the parents are never well rested

              As someone who has taken care of three newborns, that's not a requirement. If you put the infant on a regular two/three-hour feeding/changing cycle, they don't reflexively cry unless they're in some kind of physical distress.

              The trick is to execute that schedule, which is itself extremely exhausting, especially if you're exclusively breast feeding. When you've got two or more people handling feedings (especially with formula) then the baby is chill and parents get more sleep and everyone is much happier.

              Also, ffs, this is why both Mom and Dad need maternity leave. The job is 10x harder when one parent is working solo.

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              So if the baby is screaming intermittently, it probably means the caregivers wouldn't be able to handle taking care of another one soon.

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                Even newborn babies are programmed to scream intermittently so that the parents are never well rested

                As someone who has taken care of three newborns, that's not a requirement. If you put the infant on a regular two/three-hour feeding/changing cycle, they don't reflexively cry unless they're in some kind of physical distress.

                The trick is to execute that schedule, which is itself extremely exhausting, especially if you're exclusively breast feeding. When you've got two or more people handling feedings (especially with formula) then the baby is chill and parents get more sleep and everyone is much happier.

                Also, ffs, this is why both Mom and Dad need maternity leave. The job is 10x harder when one parent is working solo.

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                I agree with everything you said and I used to think all kids could be fixed by schedules. But our second child was the antithesis to any of these methods. She screamed for almost 2 years regardless of anything we did. I constantly changed our approach to her to try to find a solution and nothing worked for more than a week. She is only recently getting better now that she can understand us.

                We are now the parents that discuss our shopping list while she screams on the floor in the grocery store. Some kids are kinda assholes. Fortunately she's extremely cute while being an asshole.

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                  So wouldn't that mean that child birth is less painful? Because pain receptors and memory are also evolutionary traits?

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                  no? whether the pain is remembered is irrelevant to the feelings in the moment. not remembering the worst of the pain doesn't make that pain more bearable during childbirth

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                    I agree with everything you said and I used to think all kids could be fixed by schedules. But our second child was the antithesis to any of these methods. She screamed for almost 2 years regardless of anything we did. I constantly changed our approach to her to try to find a solution and nothing worked for more than a week. She is only recently getting better now that she can understand us.

                    We are now the parents that discuss our shopping list while she screams on the floor in the grocery store. Some kids are kinda assholes. Fortunately she's extremely cute while being an asshole.

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                    I guess maybe we got lucky, then.

                    I do know some kids have real legit physical issues (colic being a big one). And if you don't figure out how to mitigate their distress quickly, they simply learn to scream when they want to communicate.

                    But when I hear "some kids are just assholes", I tend to see some underlying problem (possibly something you just can't do anything about at this stage, but it exists) that they're responding to. It's not standard baby behavior to make parents miserable.

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                    • samus12345@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                      So if the baby is screaming intermittently, it probably means the caregivers wouldn't be able to handle taking care of another one soon.

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                      I never understood how someone with a six week old managed to find time to boink. But I guess some folks are just very horny.

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                      • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                        I never understood how someone with a six week old managed to find time to boink. But I guess some folks are just very horny.

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                        Indeed. Never underestimate humans' desire to fuck.

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                          So wouldn't that mean that child birth is less painful? Because pain receptors and memory are also evolutionary traits?

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                          Isn't that the same with any pain? I mean I can't remember how much it hurt when I broke bones or got hit but I remember it hurt a lot. You do get something out of the birth that is worth the pain (big assumptions everyone feels that way) you do not get anything out of being kicked in the nuts or anywhere else (unless it is a kink).

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                            I don't know how this is relevant but I upvote anyway

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                              The woman who birthed my child didn't remember anything of the actual process, the pain is so bad the brain just kinda blocks it out after the fact apparently. I've read this is fairly common. One thing I do remember is how bad my hand hurt after all that squeezing, I needed like a whole two ibuprofen to fix it, talk about killer.

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                              I believe it's a hormone thing because otherwise nobody would have a second kid. Apparently the hormones kick in and make you forget the pain while also giving you a big hit of dopamine so that you connect having a kid to being happy.

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                                Maybe between you and your mom /s

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                                Angry upvote

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                                  that's because they asked to get kicked in the nuts by saying shit like "getting kicked in the nuts is more painful then giving birth"

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                                    I guess maybe we got lucky, then.

                                    I do know some kids have real legit physical issues (colic being a big one). And if you don't figure out how to mitigate their distress quickly, they simply learn to scream when they want to communicate.

                                    But when I hear "some kids are just assholes", I tend to see some underlying problem (possibly something you just can't do anything about at this stage, but it exists) that they're responding to. It's not standard baby behavior to make parents miserable.

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                                    I think it's easy to dismiss the possibility of this kid existing. I am absolutely not a perfect parent but this kid is literally an asshole. Still love her though.

                                    My wife and I think we are mild abuse victims from this kid. We confirmed it's hereditary with my MIL. My wife as a child was the same monster this kid is. If you listen to her scream she just purposely eggs herself on. She broke our nanny and almost a dozen daycare people. I always say she has like 3 toddlers worth of personality that she is trying to figure out and only recently she is starting to sort it out.

                                    We tried everything related to colic and nothing changed her. Gripe water with fenel seed sort of worked. Omg im just remembering, hiccups 100% of the time after feedings. She almost never ate more than a ounce of formula. My wife had mastitis which killed milk production. Kid was so noise sensitive that I couldn't close a car door outside the house while she was napping. She needed a pacifier to sleep but would purposely spit it out. She whale tailed for almost a year. Naps were more stressfull than awake time because she needed to sleep 1.5 hours or she would screem constantly during awake time. We think she also had measles at one point, the hospital didn't do anything about it even after confirming what it likely was.

                                    Kid broke my brain to the point where I understand where PURPLE crying is needed. My memory and anxiety are only recently recovering.

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                                      I guess maybe we got lucky, then.

                                      I do know some kids have real legit physical issues (colic being a big one). And if you don't figure out how to mitigate their distress quickly, they simply learn to scream when they want to communicate.

                                      But when I hear "some kids are just assholes", I tend to see some underlying problem (possibly something you just can't do anything about at this stage, but it exists) that they're responding to. It's not standard baby behavior to make parents miserable.

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                                      You sound like my brother after his first, who was a saint of a child.....the second however.....great kid but "not a sleeper" as they say.

                                      None of my kids slept through until they were 3....10 years of broken sleep

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                                        Funny how often childbirth is brought up to describe how much more painful something else is, usually by people who have never given births themselves.

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                                          This person has never been to a fucking kink party then have they?

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