U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) waiting outside unmarked van
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That's not true in all states. In Florida, if you feel genuinely threatened, you can respond with deadly force, no matter what the other guy is threatening you with.
And people who write things like that and immediately got a stabbing are definitely not from the same area as you and I must be because whenI think of my self-defence weapon, it’s not my knife
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If you stand your ground you still go to jail. Even if you are released you still got more inconvenienced than them.
As a white person I'm at minimal risk from them. But in order to stand your ground for another person they must have a legal right to be where they are. And if they are, in fact, not legally here, then bad things happen to you.
I might still go to jail, but I have taken all of them out so they will never be another problem.
The ones here don’t wear body armour because that would make them stick out more
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Easy there, boss. That depends heavily on what state you're in. And the ones that have "stand your ground" and "castle doctrine" are usually the ones where local police are openly coordinating with ICE.
Yeah. Understand your ground you still get arrested when you kill someone. You don’t have to deal with the police you go straight to a local Judge, Who in my county has already ruled people shooting off duty police officers moonlighting as security is perfectly legal
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Interesting that Americans always argue that they need their guns in case the government goes rouge. So many comments say that they will get shot, because they absolutely look like kidnappers, yet nothing happens. Looks like you keep those guns around just for a higher suicide rate and school shootings.
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I wrote a simple formula for it the other day actually
def shoot_masked_gunman(color, job): you = 2 if color == "white" else 0 masked_gunman = 100 if job == "cop" else 1 if you > masked_gunman : print("The justice system works!") else: print("Life without parole")Why are the first two ifs in infix notation and the third isn't?
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If people that looked like this showed up at my door, they'd be looking down the barrel of a shotgun. These morons are going to get shot.
Chances are you wouldn't do anything, like all the other people seeing kidnappers with masks and doing nothing. Looks like the rest of the world was right when they told Americans that their arguments for keeping guns to prevent the government from going rogue was all talk.
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"You see your honor, they were wearing ski masks, and I've been taught by Hollywood that a group of people wearing ski masks in the middle of the day with a black van means they are up to no good. So I took it to my own hands to shoot these motherfuckers down."
Yet nothing in the news, because Americans are all talk.
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Chances are you wouldn't do anything, like all the other people seeing kidnappers with masks and doing nothing. Looks like the rest of the world was right when they told Americans that their arguments for keeping guns to prevent the government from going rogue was all talk.
I mean I bought my first gun because of what's going on. Revolutions and wars have often been fought by only a few percent of a population. Most people work jobs and keep society plugging along while shit is done by a few.
You sound pretty flippant with people's lives, why don't you go grab a gun and suicide into an armed force for great justice? There's a difference when you're backed into a corner. If they're at MY door, what else can be done but defend my life with my life? Hope I don't get deported to a gulag without due process? Hope that court orders are obeyed when they haven't been?
Other than that, I'll wait until there's an actual organized resistance than suicide by cop as a martyr. I have people I'm responsible for.
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I mean I bought my first gun because of what's going on. Revolutions and wars have often been fought by only a few percent of a population. Most people work jobs and keep society plugging along while shit is done by a few.
You sound pretty flippant with people's lives, why don't you go grab a gun and suicide into an armed force for great justice? There's a difference when you're backed into a corner. If they're at MY door, what else can be done but defend my life with my life? Hope I don't get deported to a gulag without due process? Hope that court orders are obeyed when they haven't been?
Other than that, I'll wait until there's an actual organized resistance than suicide by cop as a martyr. I have people I'm responsible for.
If they're at MY door, what else can be done but defend my life with my life?
That's what I meant with you wouldn't do anything. First you'd still have other options and if ICE is at your door and you start shooting at them it will probably kill you faster.
You sound pretty flippant with people's lives
That was not my intention. It totally get why nobody is doing anything, especially with guns, because of the consequences. I just pointed out that so many people in favor of armed civilians bring completely flawed arguments and now we actually see in action how useless a "regulated militia" is.
why don't you go grab a gun and suicide into an armed force for great justice?
Why would I? I don't have a gun and never argued in favor of armed civilians, because it's completely useless (and research shows that it only increases the chances of domestic violence and suicide). Maybe it wasn't useless at the time the constitution was written but the current situation shows that it is now. Besides that I live in Vienna.
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If they're at MY door, what else can be done but defend my life with my life?
That's what I meant with you wouldn't do anything. First you'd still have other options and if ICE is at your door and you start shooting at them it will probably kill you faster.
You sound pretty flippant with people's lives
That was not my intention. It totally get why nobody is doing anything, especially with guns, because of the consequences. I just pointed out that so many people in favor of armed civilians bring completely flawed arguments and now we actually see in action how useless a "regulated militia" is.
why don't you go grab a gun and suicide into an armed force for great justice?
Why would I? I don't have a gun and never argued in favor of armed civilians, because it's completely useless (and research shows that it only increases the chances of domestic violence and suicide). Maybe it wasn't useless at the time the constitution was written but the current situation shows that it is now. Besides that I live in Vienna.
What other options? Get disappeared to Venezuela?
