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Seems like the perfect day to ask: Muricans, what's your dream country to expatriate to? Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?

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  • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

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    Probably Finland, or another Nordic country. Idk, I just like the cold and the woods and figure those oughtta fit the bill

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    • leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zoneL [email protected]

      For anyone who's thinking UK, I'd advise not - we're about 4-5 years behind you in terms of imminent fascism and whilst there's still technically a chance to avert it, its very unlikely - especially since Starmer is being even more awful than the Tories.

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      Just to add: The xenophobic riot last year...

      Especially a bad idea if you are Muslim, Arab, or just look "Middle-Eastern".

      Or if you're transgender (it's called "TERF Island" for a reason)

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        I’ve always thought there’s two kinds of Americans; the ones who have a passport and the ones who don’t.

        If they’re willing to explore the world and recognise the US isn’t the whole universe I find them to be totally fine.

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        There are also Americans who had a passport of a different country before they naturalized

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          Non-Muricans, what's the thought on accepting US refugees?

          Stand and fight, you cowards.

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          "Stay in Germany and fight, your cowards"

          -@[email protected] said to Jewish Refugees in 1933

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          • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

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            I think I’d like to move to Canada. However, I have no money, and do not have a degree or anything like that. I think the plant I work at has operations in Canada, so there might be the possibility of transferring there. Even if the opportunity presented itself, I refuse to leave my son, so I am stuck here.

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            • sayjess@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

              I think I’d like to move to Canada. However, I have no money, and do not have a degree or anything like that. I think the plant I work at has operations in Canada, so there might be the possibility of transferring there. Even if the opportunity presented itself, I refuse to leave my son, so I am stuck here.

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              I moved US -> CA, so AMA

              My experience so far: I instantly made a bunch of friends and the locals seem happy to have me here. Many are curious about the US, many also understand what's going on. I don't experience the same level of elitism I'm used to back in the states as an immigrant (even after 2+ decades). There is also SIGNIFICANTLY less catcalling, I somehow get way more compliments??? Oh and did you know ketchup was actually supposed to taste good? (Hint: it's all the corn syrup)

              Canada is a lovely country ❤️🇨🇦

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              • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

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                Korea is facing a huge population crisis in the not-so-distant future. They already have ties to the U.S., too.

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                  Not OP, but probably because they've had a lot of immigration in recent years and it's made their housing situation worse.

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                  Spain is in the same boat

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                    Okay, but given your original comment that the people who "are already here" (eg. Canadian citizens) should be the only ones to vote, you do seem to be lending weight to the idea that people who were already here should be making the decisions.

                    Do you think that the first immigrants (settlers) to come here from England and France should also not have been allowed to decide on how the country was run? Or is it only new immigrants that shouldn't be allowed a voice in government? What's the cutoff?

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                    I think they took the land, just like everyone else has been taking land for all of human history, and applying modern government concepts to something that happened a few hundred years ago is stupid.

                    We can try to prevent future injustices, we can fix wrongs that occurred in the lifetimes of people who are alive (like reparations for residential schools) but trying to go back and change things for anything done prior to anyone alive existing is stupid.

                    So the cutoff is "is anyone still alive that it directly happened to" and descendents do not count.

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                      That is it.

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                      • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

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                        When America sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with them. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.

                        https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7764650-when-mexico-sends-its-people-they-re-not-sending-their-best

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                        • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

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                          Californian - i want us, oregon, and washington to join canada.

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                          • sterile_technique@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                            Please go into lots of detail - some of us are taking notes!

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                            Costa Rica 🇨🇷

                            Our country attracts a lot of American tourists, they mainly go to the beaches and national parks but I have seen them on my city sometimes

                            I'm fine with it, I highly suggest you learn Spanish since we are a Spanish-speaking country, and you can only see English on the tourist areas

                            Also if you want to become a citizen you need to do some sort of exam that for most foreign people is hard. Just so y'all know

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                              No, you need to find some job and rent a room
                              As a US citizen you have right to work in most of those countries. Without that right, it would be a different story

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                              As a US citizen you have right to work in most of those countries.

                              No you don't, you need a visa to be able to work here, depending on your area of expertise companies might sponsor your visa.

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                                No where. I like America. What are my other options, realistically? Britain which just banned porn? Australia which banned Hentai? Canada, which is just America but cold and sky high housing costs?

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                                No where. I like America.

                                Fair enough

                                What are my other options, realistically?

                                Lots of them really

                                Britain which just banned porn?

                                No they didn't, they just force age verification, which is also common in the USA. So you have the exact same "problem" there, but are missing the free healthcare, and other benefits from the UK in relation to the USA.

                                Australia which banned Hentai?

                                Yeah, Australia is weird, they also banned several games and similar stuff because they have a government that's very focused on moral problems, much like the right wing in the USA, so I don't think it will be long before the USA goes down this same rabbit hole of "won't somebody please think of the children" and bans the same things.

                                Canada, which is just America but cold and sky high housing costs?

                                I don't even know how to reply to this, the fact that you think that a country that consistently picks the complete opposite policies from the USA is the same means you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. It's like if someone told you they don't want to stop eating deep fried chicken because salad is just the same thing except cold and more expensive.

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                                  Costa Rica 🇨🇷

                                  Our country attracts a lot of American tourists, they mainly go to the beaches and national parks but I have seen them on my city sometimes

                                  I'm fine with it, I highly suggest you learn Spanish since we are a Spanish-speaking country, and you can only see English on the tourist areas

                                  Also if you want to become a citizen you need to do some sort of exam that for most foreign people is hard. Just so y'all know

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                                  Also even with a gringo accent, you'll fit right in /jk

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    I know some folks have strong feelings that people should stay and fight

                                    As someone who thinks that. Sounds like you already fought your fight. And if you already tried it's fair enough to move on.

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                                    Thanks. I care a lot about liberty and freedom. I think they come with duty and responsibility. Even though we are anonymous strangers on the internet, I want you to know that I respect everyone who stays and fights either because they cant leave or they choose not to. I hope you all win. I can still vote in federal elections, and I will continue to do so.

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                                      Californian - i want us, oregon, and washington to join canada.

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                                      I feel like if CA were to leave the US it would join Mexico, not Canada

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                                        I feel like if CA were to leave the US it would join Mexico, not Canada

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                                        fuck no lol joining mexico is submitting yourself to the rule of cartels. Theyre super corrupt.

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                                        • reverendender@sh.itjust.worksR [email protected]

                                          American here. Can confirm; do not have $30,000. I just managed to scrounge up $5500 for the minimum possible downpayment on a house in northern Maine; the bluest, closest to Canada place, where people like to mind their own business and not fuck with anyone else for no reason. The Canadian escape route is real, though.

                                          I do hear good things about Portugal. I was thinking Spain, but they seem to be having their own issues right now. This timeline is definitely off the rails.

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                                          There were some very fucked up things happening in our very red state, both in general and to us in particular. We had considered something similar, like moving to Maine or Vermont. These things happened just at the right time in 2024 that it was obvious that trump was going to win, but we still had time to plan to get out before he did.

                                          We figured if we were going to go through the hassle of moving far enough away that any friends or family were going to fly to come vist us, that just moving to a blue state wasn't good enough. We figured that when trump was reelected that even blue states wouldn't be safe enough.

                                          And believe me, I am well aware of how fortunate I am, because I was not always so fortunate. I realize that not everyone can do it. There were a couple of women married to each other that lived near us that were scared as hell, but they couldn't afford to move to any of the places they were researching.

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