Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
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"harmless"
Consenting adults doing something in private triggers your harm alarm?
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On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap?
On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.
wrote last edited by [email protected]The payments can become a legal liability for the processors. I believe there are federal laws that have penalties for anyone who facilitates transactions for certain prohibited goods or services. It's the same reason cannabis shops have such a hard time getting payment and banking services.
The payment processors have very little incentive to take risks here. As others have noted, there isn't much competition pressure.
EDIT: I went to find a source, and found the cannabis analogy isn't right. Seems that Visa and MasterCard really are the primary censors of the porn industry. This archived FT article went in depth. https://archive.ph/zXKuD
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No, ya don't.
Just like people dont choose to be straight either.
Or do you think pray the gay away works? I bet you that they would have liked to be able to change if they could, rather than suffer through Christianity at its finest.
But, you definitely make the choice to dress as a fucking furry.
Lol, you get to decide what is nature, and what is decision? That's some impressive responsibility you were given, friend-o. Did your deity of choice sign your license to judge on the origins of sexual nature themselves, or did they have their secretarial demigod sign for them?
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wrote last edited by [email protected]What are you complaining about here exactly?
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Y’all care about kinky games on steam? Isn’t that what’s itch.io for?
Honest question. I never bought something fucky on steam.
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Sure. You like beastialty too?
If it's fiction, who fucking cares?
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nickyflowers: It would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. The advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though their definitions of family and friendly are fucked. But since they're in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. TikTokers say things like "unalive" and "seggs" because they know death and sex are too adult for online. Online is for idiot babies only now because they're easier to market to.nickyflowers: Oh I'm sorry you're a trans adult? Super ban. You are super banned for life. You have upset Visa's feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. How could you do this to Google Ads?
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What are you complaining about here exactly?
I’m complaining about the state of things.
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Y’all care about kinky games on steam? Isn’t that what’s itch.io for?
Honest question. I never bought something fucky on steam.
Only a matter of time before the same thing happens to itch.io
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On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap?
On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.
It's been like this for a while in the porn industry. In an interview a while back, Bree Mills says she gets more limited by payment processors than the government (though that might be switching).
Ever wonder why every faux-incest video goes out of the way to say everyone is a step family? Step father, step daughter, step mother, step brother, all somehow living in the same house, over 18, and no blood relation? The first amendment protects them from the US government, so that's not why. Credit card companies are why. The old Taboo series was distributed differently back in the day. Can't make that anymore.
This also applies to some of the more extreme BDSM stuff, like blood play or scat. Won't find them on kink.com.
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Good. That shit is vile.
So?
It's a game with a representation of something that can't even happen. It doesn't even get to the point where you could have a discussion about simulation creating a demand for real that some things have because it's not even remotely realistic.It's not my cup of tea, but that just means I don't look at it.
It's because you think it's icky and you don't know how to handle those feelings, isn't it?
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Lol, you get to decide what is nature, and what is decision? That's some impressive responsibility you were given, friend-o. Did your deity of choice sign your license to judge on the origins of sexual nature themselves, or did they have their secretarial demigod sign for them?
When did you decide your sexuality?
Did you decide what sex you're attracted to?
No you didn't. If that where the case, anyone could change at any time they wanted. Ask Turing how that went for him. Or any other homosexual through the ages.
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So?
It's a game with a representation of something that can't even happen. It doesn't even get to the point where you could have a discussion about simulation creating a demand for real that some things have because it's not even remotely realistic.It's not my cup of tea, but that just means I don't look at it.
It's because you think it's icky and you don't know how to handle those feelings, isn't it?
I find the fact that people want to fuck animals pretty nasty, yes.
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The payments can become a legal liability for the processors. I believe there are federal laws that have penalties for anyone who facilitates transactions for certain prohibited goods or services. It's the same reason cannabis shops have such a hard time getting payment and banking services.
The payment processors have very little incentive to take risks here. As others have noted, there isn't much competition pressure.
EDIT: I went to find a source, and found the cannabis analogy isn't right. Seems that Visa and MasterCard really are the primary censors of the porn industry. This archived FT article went in depth. https://archive.ph/zXKuD
Not really. In the US, the first amendment protects a lot. Just like with YouTube censorship, capitalism has created a more restrictive regime through financial pressure than the government does. This has affected the porn industry, as well (see another comment in this subthread on that).
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This doesn't sound like a good idea in any way. Why the fuck do banks get to say how my money is used? They can literally eat my shit.
I 100% agreed. BUt maybe some people thought it sounded like a good idea.
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Ted Cruz in shambles
I'm sure the young escorts in Cancun are unaffected by this.
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in some previous times something like this happened (I forgot specifically which), visa/mastercard would deny all payments with a platform until whatever offended them was removed (don't know if they only threatened that or actually followed through)
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?
Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
Because I'm not a right-libertarian who ignores how corporations setup coercive structures all their own in a perversion of free association.
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in some previous times something like this happened (I forgot specifically which), visa/mastercard would deny all payments with a platform until whatever offended them was removed (don't know if they only threatened that or actually followed through)
They shouldn’t be allowed to do that. They should be required to process any legal payment. Even the icky ones.
