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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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    Sure. You like beastialty too?

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    Have you ever heard of the straw man fallacy?

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    • I [email protected]

      Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?

      Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.

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      Things of questionable moral value have been available for sale for as long as money has existed. It’s not like this is new. Payment processors got into this business knowing perfectly well that some purchases may not align with their moral values. In fact, they’ve been profiting off it for decades. They don’t get to suddenly clutch their pearls now.

      To be clear, I won’t miss the incest games. I just don’t like the precedent this is setting.

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      • T [email protected]

        You aren't born as a furry, you fucking weirdo. You make that decision on your own

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        You aren't born straight/gay, you wucking feirdo!
        You make that decision on your own.

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          You aren't born straight/gay, you wucking feirdo!
          You make that decision on your own.

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          No, ya don't.

          Just like people dont choose to be straight either.

          Or do you think pray the gay away works? I bet you that they would have liked to be able to change if they could, rather than suffer through Christianity at its finest.

          But, you definitely make the choice to dress as a fucking furry.

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          • mp3@lemmy.caM [email protected]
            1. You can't see these games without being signed in
            2. When you create a new account, adult games are hidden by default
            3. You can use the Mature Content Preferences if you don't want to see them
            4. Steam Families + managed accounts is the way to go to curate stuff for kids

            Let the adults be adults, and let the parents to their jobs. No need to grandstand on something so petty.

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            Nice of you to justify beastialty on Steam.

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            • M [email protected]

              Less vile than those who shame harmless kinks

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              "harmless"

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              • magnetosphere@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                So… why tell payment processors exactly what was purchased? Why not call it “Steam store transaction” and that’s it?

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                Ironically, when you look at the receipts that is all it says.

                I think they're just blanket saying "follow our morals or die" rather than "this particular title offends us".

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                • P [email protected]

                  Source.

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                  Link post about this thing an hour earlier - 10 upvotes. Picture with the same news one hour later - 10x more. Average Lemmy user is no longer distinguishable from a Reddit user 😞

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                    "harmless"

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                    Consenting adults doing something in private triggers your harm alarm?

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                    • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                      On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap?

                      On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.

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                      The payments can become a legal liability for the processors. I believe there are federal laws that have penalties for anyone who facilitates transactions for certain prohibited goods or services. It's the same reason cannabis shops have such a hard time getting payment and banking services.

                      The payment processors have very little incentive to take risks here. As others have noted, there isn't much competition pressure.

                      EDIT: I went to find a source, and found the cannabis analogy isn't right. Seems that Visa and MasterCard really are the primary censors of the porn industry. This archived FT article went in depth. https://archive.ph/zXKuD

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                      • T [email protected]

                        No, ya don't.

                        Just like people dont choose to be straight either.

                        Or do you think pray the gay away works? I bet you that they would have liked to be able to change if they could, rather than suffer through Christianity at its finest.

                        But, you definitely make the choice to dress as a fucking furry.

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                        Lol, you get to decide what is nature, and what is decision? That's some impressive responsibility you were given, friend-o. Did your deity of choice sign your license to judge on the origins of sexual nature themselves, or did they have their secretarial demigod sign for them?

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                        • misk@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                          Link post about this thing an hour earlier - 10 upvotes. Picture with the same news one hour later - 10x more. Average Lemmy user is no longer distinguishable from a Reddit user 😞

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                          What are you complaining about here exactly?

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                            Source.

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                            Y’all care about kinky games on steam? Isn’t that what’s itch.io for?

                            Honest question. I never bought something fucky on steam.

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                            • T [email protected]

                              Sure. You like beastialty too?

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                              If it's fiction, who fucking cares?

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                                Source.

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                                ::: spoiler Transcript
                                nickyflowers: It would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. The advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though their definitions of family and friendly are fucked. But since they're in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. TikTokers say things like "unalive" and "seggs" because they know death and sex are too adult for online. Online is for idiot babies only now because they're easier to market to.

                                nickyflowers: Oh I'm sorry you're a trans adult? Super ban. You are super banned for life. You have upset Visa's feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. How could you do this to Google Ads?
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                                • P [email protected]

                                  What are you complaining about here exactly?

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                                  I’m complaining about the state of things.

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                                  • rustyfish@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                    Y’all care about kinky games on steam? Isn’t that what’s itch.io for?

                                    Honest question. I never bought something fucky on steam.

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                                    Only a matter of time before the same thing happens to itch.io

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                                    • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap?

                                      On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.

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                                      It's been like this for a while in the porn industry. In an interview a while back, Bree Mills says she gets more limited by payment processors than the government (though that might be switching).

                                      Ever wonder why every faux-incest video goes out of the way to say everyone is a step family? Step father, step daughter, step mother, step brother, all somehow living in the same house, over 18, and no blood relation? The first amendment protects them from the US government, so that's not why. Credit card companies are why. The old Taboo series was distributed differently back in the day. Can't make that anymore.

                                      This also applies to some of the more extreme BDSM stuff, like blood play or scat. Won't find them on kink.com.

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                                      • T [email protected]

                                        Good. That shit is vile.

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                                        So?
                                        It's a game with a representation of something that can't even happen. It doesn't even get to the point where you could have a discussion about simulation creating a demand for real that some things have because it's not even remotely realistic.

                                        It's not my cup of tea, but that just means I don't look at it.

                                        It's because you think it's icky and you don't know how to handle those feelings, isn't it?

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                                          Lol, you get to decide what is nature, and what is decision? That's some impressive responsibility you were given, friend-o. Did your deity of choice sign your license to judge on the origins of sexual nature themselves, or did they have their secretarial demigod sign for them?

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                                          When did you decide your sexuality?

                                          Did you decide what sex you're attracted to?

                                          No you didn't. If that where the case, anyone could change at any time they wanted. Ask Turing how that went for him. Or any other homosexual through the ages.

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