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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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  • D [email protected]

    Isn't that the same argument used against homosexuals?

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    You aren't born as a furry, you fucking weirdo. You make that decision on your own

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    • not_rick@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

      It’s kind of messy because I think there is a subset of the fandom where it isn’t necessarily sexualized. Like, Khajit and Argonians from Elder Scrolls are pretty much furries but they’re not explicitly sexual. Feel like I’m getting over my skis in terms of my understanding of that fandom since I’m not in that world. No idea how if at all those cons keep the kid safe stuff separate from the sex shit, if at all.

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      Oh wow. There is this strange non-sexualized offshoot that just dresses up and doesn't want to fuck Lola bunny because they couldn't understand how people works. How nice for them.

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      • T [email protected]

        It does extend to others since they put animated, innocent "kid-friendly" looking porn on imageboards.

        And yes it's akin to beastialty which is vile. Why else would you dress up like an animal?

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        1. You can't see these games without being signed in
        2. When you create a new account, adult games are hidden by default
        3. You can use the Mature Content Preferences if you don't want to see them
        4. Steam Families + managed accounts is the way to go to curate stuff for kids

        Let the adults be adults, and let the parents to their jobs. No need to grandstand on something so petty.

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        • T [email protected]

          It does extend to others since they put animated, innocent "kid-friendly" looking porn on imageboards.

          And yes it's akin to beastialty which is vile. Why else would you dress up like an animal?

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          90000% agreeing with you, video games are for little children and should never contain any adult material!

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          • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

            Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities

            Imagine you can't use visa or mastercard. What other fucking payment card acceptance system are you going to use for payment processing in under 30 seconds?

            Why shouldn’t the payment processors get a say in the payments they process

            Because it's none of their business what I buy. If a store is a reputable business that isn't defrauding me, and are a legal entity, then whatever they sell to me or I buy from them should only matter to me and the seller.

            Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?

            So half the market can get nuked once the CEO decides whatever faith du jour they have disallows whatever?

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            These payment processors are businesses. They provide a service. Like valve does. It seems to me like you're making an argument for valve, but not for these other businesses which only differ in the service they provide.

            If your point is "our society is too dependant on a small selection of payment processors and we need better options," that's a separate discussion and one I don't think I'd disagree with.

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            • H [email protected]

              Because corporate religions are obviously more important than individual religions and beliefs. It goes against my beliefs to pay overdraft fees. Do you think that shit would hold up? They are constantly changing the rules that you have to follow and enforcing their will on everyone whether they use their service or not.

              Religion is vile.

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              I'm genuinely confused about what point you are trying to make.

              Edited to add, why doesn't someone who understands the point better than I do try to elucidate? Instead of just downvoting me for stating that I didn't understand. Like what does corporate religion mean? I'm so confused.

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                Good. That shit is vile.

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                Less vile than those who shame harmless kinks

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                • K [email protected]

                  That's different than cub stuff right?

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                  Yes. Cub stuff can be banned for all I care.

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                  • T [email protected]

                    Sure. You like beastialty too?

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                    Have you ever heard of the straw man fallacy?

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                    • I [email protected]

                      Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?

                      Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.

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                      Things of questionable moral value have been available for sale for as long as money has existed. It’s not like this is new. Payment processors got into this business knowing perfectly well that some purchases may not align with their moral values. In fact, they’ve been profiting off it for decades. They don’t get to suddenly clutch their pearls now.

                      To be clear, I won’t miss the incest games. I just don’t like the precedent this is setting.

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                        You aren't born as a furry, you fucking weirdo. You make that decision on your own

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                        You aren't born straight/gay, you wucking feirdo!
                        You make that decision on your own.

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                          You aren't born straight/gay, you wucking feirdo!
                          You make that decision on your own.

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                          No, ya don't.

                          Just like people dont choose to be straight either.

                          Or do you think pray the gay away works? I bet you that they would have liked to be able to change if they could, rather than suffer through Christianity at its finest.

                          But, you definitely make the choice to dress as a fucking furry.

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                            1. You can't see these games without being signed in
                            2. When you create a new account, adult games are hidden by default
                            3. You can use the Mature Content Preferences if you don't want to see them
                            4. Steam Families + managed accounts is the way to go to curate stuff for kids

                            Let the adults be adults, and let the parents to their jobs. No need to grandstand on something so petty.

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                            Nice of you to justify beastialty on Steam.

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                              Less vile than those who shame harmless kinks

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                              "harmless"

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                              • magnetosphere@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                                So… why tell payment processors exactly what was purchased? Why not call it “Steam store transaction” and that’s it?

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                                Ironically, when you look at the receipts that is all it says.

                                I think they're just blanket saying "follow our morals or die" rather than "this particular title offends us".

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                                  Source.

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                                  Link post about this thing an hour earlier - 10 upvotes. Picture with the same news one hour later - 10x more. Average Lemmy user is no longer distinguishable from a Reddit user 😞

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                                    "harmless"

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                                    Consenting adults doing something in private triggers your harm alarm?

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                                    • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap?

                                      On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.

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                                      The payments can become a legal liability for the processors. I believe there are federal laws that have penalties for anyone who facilitates transactions for certain prohibited goods or services. It's the same reason cannabis shops have such a hard time getting payment and banking services.

                                      The payment processors have very little incentive to take risks here. As others have noted, there isn't much competition pressure.

                                      EDIT: I went to find a source, and found the cannabis analogy isn't right. Seems that Visa and MasterCard really are the primary censors of the porn industry. This archived FT article went in depth. https://archive.ph/zXKuD

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                                      • T [email protected]

                                        No, ya don't.

                                        Just like people dont choose to be straight either.

                                        Or do you think pray the gay away works? I bet you that they would have liked to be able to change if they could, rather than suffer through Christianity at its finest.

                                        But, you definitely make the choice to dress as a fucking furry.

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                                        Lol, you get to decide what is nature, and what is decision? That's some impressive responsibility you were given, friend-o. Did your deity of choice sign your license to judge on the origins of sexual nature themselves, or did they have their secretarial demigod sign for them?

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                                        • misk@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                                          Link post about this thing an hour earlier - 10 upvotes. Picture with the same news one hour later - 10x more. Average Lemmy user is no longer distinguishable from a Reddit user 😞

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                                          What are you complaining about here exactly?

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