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Disposable E-Cigarettes More Toxic Than Traditional Cigarettes: High Levels of Lead, Other Hazardous Metals Found in E-Cigarettes Popular with Teens

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  • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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    I wonder if this is part of why gen Z is turning conservative.

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    • R [email protected]

      Like I said, the three companies named there are not the same companies, but you claim they are, and are sourcing it from the same Chinese sweatshop, even tho they don't even seem Chinese.

      https://www.elfbar.com/

      https://www.escobarvape.org/

      https://mipod.com/collections/

      So, again, can I get a source for your claim that all these are the same company sourcing their stuff from Chinese sweatshop?

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      Since nobody else will provide the actual clarity

      EscobarVape and Elfbar are created by two separate Chinese companies, Shenzhen Innokin Technology Co. Ltd and Shenzhen iMiracle Technology respectively. Mi-Bar is created by an American company but has partnered with Elfbar to distribute Elfbar products in the US

      Really wish more people would just provide the facts that speak for themselves, rather than point fingers about who is and isn't doing their research

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      • S [email protected]

        Guess I'm gonna be ultra fucked. I'm not going back to cigarettes. And I already quit nicotine once for seven and a half years. Starting again was the biggest mistake of my life cause I don't wanna go through that again. Oh well, it's not like we have much chance at a future anyway.

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        Dude, I hope you try to quit those too. If you've ever met someone who can't breathe from COPD, it's a tough time for them.

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          **PROMOTED BY THE “MAD MEN” AT LUCKY STRIKE!

          Just have a cocktail and smoke a cig, it’s better than weed and ecigs! How dare you switch because of rat poison found in our cigs and how the RICH banded hemp due to lobbying by the paper people… not due to anything else! Cool!

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            I can’t fathom how they’re legal. Disposable e cigarettes? The waste is insane, and the people using then aren’t properly disposing of them either..

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            This. So much effort being put into regulating zero-waste bags and attached bottle cups yet those vapes fly under the radar

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              The coils don't burn it's the cotton that burns and causes dry hits and burnt flavor.

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              You're splitting hairs. The coils get red hot on dry wick and it burns. The coils are overheating.

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                I think you kinda made my point for me, once the cart has hit the temperature at which it releases those chemicals the cart is immediately ruined. This kind of goes to my 'if you burn the whole cigarette including the filter the net result is even more toxic'. I mean, sure, but that's really gross data manipulation.

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                The ruined coil is if you run it too hot for too long... You're being naive if you think it never runs a little dry and the coils never get red hot.

                If you have a tank that exposes the coil from the air hole, just look inside it and see how red it gets from a one second hit.

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                  I can’t fathom how they’re legal. Disposable e cigarettes? The waste is insane, and the people using then aren’t properly disposing of them either..

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                  There needs to be a $20 deposit on them that you get back when you turn in the empty vape.

                  Or, hot take, make vapes you can refill.

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                    Yeah it's totally because everything is "stupid" and not the fact that you have no argument outside of superficial fearmongering which falls apart under the slightest scrutiny. It's so stupid that you keep replying with nonsense talking about how anyone else's statements are unworthy of replying to 🙄

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                    superficial

                    You're right. Cancer is superficial damage. Speaking of which, enjoy your cancer.

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                      Those people are jackasses and should be shamed. I quit a 6 year cigarette smoking habit with just one year of using an actual vape, not these shitty gas station things. One of the best decisions I've made in my life. The potential for smoking cessation is there. But stupid and obnoxious people set the basis for stereotypes.

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                      The amount of nicotine one gets per puff in a vape is greater than a cigarette. As cigarettes are generally being made illegal, big tobacco needs to circumvent the law (which governments usually give multiple years notice to relevant companies). Sadly, using vapes is not giving up cigarette smoking but merely moving addiction from one nicotine method to another. Teens vaping causing a life-long addiction is no different from teens smoking and doing the same.

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                        If you read the paper, it assumes a 100% absorption rate of the heavy metals emitted.

                        I'm not here to defend vapes but I think that is a seriously overlooked flaw in this study. Most people don't puff a cigarette/vape and hold it in their lungs until it's completely absorbed.

                        Couldn't see anything about the bioavailability of these carcinogens via lungs factored into the absorption rate either.

                        Ontop of that the sample size from this study is abysmal and from the same manufacturer and there is also a declared conflict of interest.

                        IMO more studies need to be done before we can conclusively determine the damage and risks of disposable vapes.

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                        Some of the studies on smoking I've seen were less about understanding how and why people consume tobacco and recommend alternatives, and more like echoing the old practices and beliefs of the temperance movement, which considers tobacco and alcohol as archenemies of humanity. That anytime there's someone publicly declaring they quit smoking, it's followed with praises which at times reminiscent of a tent revival.

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                          superficial

                          You're right. Cancer is superficial damage. Speaking of which, enjoy your cancer.

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                          Nicotine doesn't cause cancer, tobacco does.

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                          • H [email protected]

                            Do you recycle condoms you find on the ground too? Vapes are probably the most disgusting thing recently invented.

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                            It's not like the batteries come out all covered in vape juice. And I have zero intent to pick up the habit.

                            To be fair, they should treat them like milk jugs back in the day and require a deposit on disposable vapes.

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                              They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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                              YOU HEARD'EM FOLKS! GO GET YOUR CIGARETTES!

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                                Guess I'm gonna be ultra fucked. I'm not going back to cigarettes. And I already quit nicotine once for seven and a half years. Starting again was the biggest mistake of my life cause I don't wanna go through that again. Oh well, it's not like we have much chance at a future anyway.

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                                Hey GPT! List a bunch of chemicals they put in our air, water, and food that we breathe, drink, and eat every day!

                                """

                                Sure, buddy!

                                Sodium nitrite – processed meats (bacon, ham, hot dogs) – forms nitrosamines → DNA damage, colon cancer
                                BHA – cereals, chips, preserved fats – endocrine disruption, liver and stomach tumors
                                BHT – gum, snacks, butter – weak estrogen mimic, promotes lung and bladder tumors
                                Propyl gallate – oils, meats, soup base – oxidative stress, endocrine disruption, tumor growth
                                Red 3 (Erythrosine) – candy, cherries, cake decor – thyroid tumors, DNA strand breaks
                                Potassium bromate – white bread, rolls – kidney tumors, oxidative DNA damage
                                Titanium dioxide – candy, gum, supplements – genotoxicity, gut inflammation, colon cancer
                                Aspartame – diet soda, sugar-free gum – linked to blood cancers in rodents, metabolic disruption
                                Carrageenan – non-dairy milk, ice cream, deli meat – chronic gut inflammation, promotes tumors
                                Polysorbate 80 – ice cream, dressings – gut permeability, inflammation, tumor promotion
                                Carboxymethylcellulose – frozen foods, sauces – microbiome disruption, chronic inflammation
                                TBHQ – chips, fast food, frozen meals – immune suppression, cell mutation, liver tumors
                                Bisphenol A (BPA) – canned food linings, water bottles – hormone mimic, breast/prostate cancer
                                Bisphenol S (BPS) – BPA-free plastics, receipts – endocrine disruptor, reproductive harm
                                Phthalates – food packaging, gloves – testosterone suppression, breast cancer, birth defects
                                PFOA – Teflon pans, food wrappers – thyroid disruption, kidney/testicular cancer
                                PFOS – stain-resistant wrappers – immune suppression, liver tumors
                                Trihalomethanes – chlorinated tap water – bladder cancer, reproductive toxicity
                                Haloacetic acids – tap water disinfection byproducts – DNA damage, liver tumors
                                Formaldehyde – air fresheners, glues – nasopharyngeal cancer, leukemia
                                Benzene – car exhaust, cleaning products – blood cancers, bone marrow suppression
                                Toluene – paints, nail polish – neurotoxin, possible liver cancer link
                                Xylene – solvents, adhesives – respiratory inflammation, CNS toxicity
                                Vinyl chloride – PVC plastics – liver cancer, angiosarcoma
                                1,3-butadiene – air pollution, rubber manufacturing – leukemia, lymphomas

                                """

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                                • anarchy79@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                  Hey GPT! List a bunch of chemicals they put in our air, water, and food that we breathe, drink, and eat every day!

                                  """

                                  Sure, buddy!

                                  Sodium nitrite – processed meats (bacon, ham, hot dogs) – forms nitrosamines → DNA damage, colon cancer
                                  BHA – cereals, chips, preserved fats – endocrine disruption, liver and stomach tumors
                                  BHT – gum, snacks, butter – weak estrogen mimic, promotes lung and bladder tumors
                                  Propyl gallate – oils, meats, soup base – oxidative stress, endocrine disruption, tumor growth
                                  Red 3 (Erythrosine) – candy, cherries, cake decor – thyroid tumors, DNA strand breaks
                                  Potassium bromate – white bread, rolls – kidney tumors, oxidative DNA damage
                                  Titanium dioxide – candy, gum, supplements – genotoxicity, gut inflammation, colon cancer
                                  Aspartame – diet soda, sugar-free gum – linked to blood cancers in rodents, metabolic disruption
                                  Carrageenan – non-dairy milk, ice cream, deli meat – chronic gut inflammation, promotes tumors
                                  Polysorbate 80 – ice cream, dressings – gut permeability, inflammation, tumor promotion
                                  Carboxymethylcellulose – frozen foods, sauces – microbiome disruption, chronic inflammation
                                  TBHQ – chips, fast food, frozen meals – immune suppression, cell mutation, liver tumors
                                  Bisphenol A (BPA) – canned food linings, water bottles – hormone mimic, breast/prostate cancer
                                  Bisphenol S (BPS) – BPA-free plastics, receipts – endocrine disruptor, reproductive harm
                                  Phthalates – food packaging, gloves – testosterone suppression, breast cancer, birth defects
                                  PFOA – Teflon pans, food wrappers – thyroid disruption, kidney/testicular cancer
                                  PFOS – stain-resistant wrappers – immune suppression, liver tumors
                                  Trihalomethanes – chlorinated tap water – bladder cancer, reproductive toxicity
                                  Haloacetic acids – tap water disinfection byproducts – DNA damage, liver tumors
                                  Formaldehyde – air fresheners, glues – nasopharyngeal cancer, leukemia
                                  Benzene – car exhaust, cleaning products – blood cancers, bone marrow suppression
                                  Toluene – paints, nail polish – neurotoxin, possible liver cancer link
                                  Xylene – solvents, adhesives – respiratory inflammation, CNS toxicity
                                  Vinyl chloride – PVC plastics – liver cancer, angiosarcoma
                                  1,3-butadiene – air pollution, rubber manufacturing – leukemia, lymphomas

                                  """

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                                  Oh shit! So, how many of the chemicals in our immediate environment haven't been tested for the effects they have on humans at all?

                                  Over 350,000 chemicals are in global use. Fewer than 1% have been thoroughly safety tested. Most are unvetted, unregulated, or shielded by trade secrecy.

                                  Holy shit! What can we do about that?

                                  ¯\(ツ)/¯

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                                    There needs to be a $20 deposit on them that you get back when you turn in the empty vape.

                                    Or, hot take, make vapes you can refill.

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                                    There are ones you can refill, the disposable ones should just be banned altogether.

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                                    • softestsapphic@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                      They may look like travel shampoo bottles and smell like bubblegum, but after a few hundred puffs, some disposable, electronic cigarettes and vape pods release higher amounts of toxic metals than older e-cigarettes and traditional cigarettes, according to a study from the University of California, Davis. For example, one of the disposable e-cigarettes studied released more lead during a day’s use than nearly 20 packs of traditional cigarettes.

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                                      All they had to do was keep it quiet for 15 years until the new generation was addicted.

                                      Remember when e-cigarettes looked like cigarettes, and were for a brief time allowed to be smoked indoors in public? That's how it started, we were told they were completely healthy, and a way to "kick the habit", because it's "just a habit", not one of the strongest addictions you'll ever encounter, according to the people who make millions off of it.

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                                      • anarchy79@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                        Oh shit! So, how many of the chemicals in our immediate environment haven't been tested for the effects they have on humans at all?

                                        Over 350,000 chemicals are in global use. Fewer than 1% have been thoroughly safety tested. Most are unvetted, unregulated, or shielded by trade secrecy.

                                        Holy shit! What can we do about that?

                                        ¯\(ツ)/¯

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                                        OMG! What about compound effects, like what happens when you mix all of them randomly??

                                        Chemicals are tested alone, but we’re exposed to hundreds at once. Combined, they can amplify toxicity, disrupt hormones, damage DNA, overwhelm detox systems, and trigger chronic disease. The mix is far deadlier than any single part.

                                        Holy shit, no way!

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                                          Do you recycle condoms you find on the ground too? Vapes are probably the most disgusting thing recently invented.

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                                          Do condoms come with lithium batteries? No? Well that’s pretty fucking weird. So they recycle batteries and you complain about vapes. Try being actually useful for once.

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