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Too bad we can't have good public transportation

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    when we care

    Yeah but who would get to skim off the top of that?

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    Oh, you dont think Lockheed skimmed off the top of the Apollo program?

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      Oh, you dont think Lockheed skimmed off the top of the Apollo program?

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      Sure by loke 60s standards. That would be like saying a cave that doesn't get too damp when it rains is luxury, because cave people thought so.

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        This is because public transportation is socialism and we can't have tax dollars going to that pretext for communism. Capitalism is far superior which is why we are instead spending over $150 billion on deporting immigrants, which will help promote a free and open capitalist market.

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          Every three years China pours more concrete than the US has since WWII.

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          Bragging about encasing the natural world in a synthetic crust and displacing wildlife... Great flex

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            Reality: Trains in China go pretty much everywhere and are often sold out days in advance.

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            Trains being sold out days before is not a good sign, it means people are missing their appointments

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              https://www.pekingnology.com/p/china-massively-overbuilt-high-speed

              Good luck dealing with that financial bomb.

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                China 2060: ..... a space elevator

                USA 2060: .... still the same rail service

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                a space elevator

                You'd have to harness carbon nanotubes first... then deal with all the debris in LEO, then come up with an elevator that doesn't take days to reach GEO (granted the counterweight can rest there and the cab can stop sooner).

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                  Just a reminder that concrete releases huge amounts of CO2 as it cures. Empty cities don't help anyone.

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                    https://www.pekingnology.com/p/china-massively-overbuilt-high-speed

                    Good luck dealing with that financial bomb.

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                    so? even if that's true, that doesn't mean high speed rail is bad. it means you should be more careful with the planning, not "don't try new shit for the next forever years"

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                      Replaced by machines that can't transport humans or even freight for that matter

                      https://youtu.be/YUpST_cQ1hM

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                      now I want to watch an entire playlist of Adam Something videos about dumbass tech bros trying to invent the train over and over again

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                        Their intention was to bolster the economy with busy work, but that's not a long term solution.

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                          Their intention was to bolster the economy with busy work, but that's not a long term solution.

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                            That's comparing Apples to Shampoo. To completely different concepts and it's not an either/or situation.

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                              It's exaggerated and massively understated depending on location.

                              There are several metro areas in the US with over 1 million people that has zero metro/subway or light rail, some of them don't even have a passenger train connections or stations, or at most it stops by once or twice a day. Places like Columbus Ohio that has literally zero rail passenger rail for over 2m people in the metro area. If you want to take the train from there to NYC you'll have to spend a couple of hours on a bus to a different city first. And it's not like they never had it, they razed the train station in the 70s.

                              Other places that lack light rail or metro and have 1m+ people in the metro area: Tampa, San Antonio, Indianapolis, Oklahoma, Memphis, Richmond, Louisville, Rochester, etc. with many of them having a very bad outside passenger train connections. There are also a bunch of others that almost slipped by or did stay off the list over technicalities like having a single tram line going up and down main street or similar. Places like Orlando, Cincinatti, etc.

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                              I recently planned out a trip to Chicago using trains. The fastest and most cost efficient route was to drive 3 hrs to Indianapolis and then take a 3 hr train to Chicago from there. Literally, the passenger rail network in the US is so bad that the fastest and cheapest way to travel by train is to do it as little as possible.

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                                That's comparing Apples to Shampoo. To completely different concepts and it's not an either/or situation.

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                                  a space elevator

                                  You'd have to harness carbon nanotubes first... then deal with all the debris in LEO, then come up with an elevator that doesn't take days to reach GEO (granted the counterweight can rest there and the cab can stop sooner).

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                                  Easy, just attach a huge rocket to the bottom of the elevator, problem solved. Oh, use AI to design the rocket, make the ticketing system use block chain, and when you get to orbit, a robot remotely operated by a human on the ground (but prentends to be fully autonomous) takes a picture of you and generates an NFT of it that you can purchase for 35000 USD in the gift shop.

                                  I'll be over here swimming in my money pool.

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                                    Houses don't stand long on their own. It takes a significant amount of time and money to keep these things from filling up with mold or collapsing.

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                                      US Train travel has actually gotten worse since 1996.

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                                        In Capitalist nations, the further we are from the era of peak Unions and in general civil society movements (which was just after WWII) the slower infrastructure improves from one year to the next, something visible not just in trains but at all levels (even National Health Services for those countries which have them).

                                        The same thing will happen in China now that they're getting more Capitalist than Socialist.

                                        It was never the Capitalist part doing the kind of improvements that benefit most people, it was the stuff outside Capitalism (that used it as a Trade Philosophy only) constraining it and guiding it for policy ends which were independent of Capitalism.

                                        This of course accelerated with Neoliberalism, since that stuff is mainly about making Capitalism the sole definer of policy, or in other words make Capitalism the entirety of politics, hence unconstrained and unguided by interests other than those of Money.

                                        Capitalism is reasonably decent at optimizing Trade in the short and mid-term, but is completelly shit for non-Trade interests such as Quality Of Life, as well as for anything which doesn't have direct and reasonably immediate action-consequence links such as situations where negative effects are very delayed in time (for example, companies enshittifying their products but keeping on going for years on the inertia of brand name) or emergent in nature (i.e. things that appear due to the accumulation of the actions of many actors, such as Global Warming).

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                                          a space elevator

                                          You'd have to harness carbon nanotubes first... then deal with all the debris in LEO, then come up with an elevator that doesn't take days to reach GEO (granted the counterweight can rest there and the cab can stop sooner).

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                                          This is a joke meme that doesn't mean anything ..... just like the American public transport system.

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