Too bad we can't have good public transportation
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China 2060: ..... a space elevator
USA 2060: .... still the same rail service
a space elevator
You'd have to harness carbon nanotubes first... then deal with all the debris in LEO, then come up with an elevator that doesn't take days to reach GEO (granted the counterweight can rest there and the cab can stop sooner).
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Just a reminder that concrete releases huge amounts of CO2 as it cures. Empty cities don't help anyone.
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https://www.pekingnology.com/p/china-massively-overbuilt-high-speed
Good luck dealing with that financial bomb.
so? even if that's true, that doesn't mean high speed rail is bad. it means you should be more careful with the planning, not "don't try new shit for the next forever years"
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Replaced by machines that can't transport humans or even freight for that matter
now I want to watch an entire playlist of Adam Something videos about dumbass tech bros trying to invent the train over and over again
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Their intention was to bolster the economy with busy work, but that's not a long term solution.
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Their intention was to bolster the economy with busy work, but that's not a long term solution.
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That's comparing Apples to Shampoo. To completely different concepts and it's not an either/or situation.
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It's exaggerated and massively understated depending on location.
There are several metro areas in the US with over 1 million people that has zero metro/subway or light rail, some of them don't even have a passenger train connections or stations, or at most it stops by once or twice a day. Places like Columbus Ohio that has literally zero rail passenger rail for over 2m people in the metro area. If you want to take the train from there to NYC you'll have to spend a couple of hours on a bus to a different city first. And it's not like they never had it, they razed the train station in the 70s.
Other places that lack light rail or metro and have 1m+ people in the metro area: Tampa, San Antonio, Indianapolis, Oklahoma, Memphis, Richmond, Louisville, Rochester, etc. with many of them having a very bad outside passenger train connections. There are also a bunch of others that almost slipped by or did stay off the list over technicalities like having a single tram line going up and down main street or similar. Places like Orlando, Cincinatti, etc.
I recently planned out a trip to Chicago using trains. The fastest and most cost efficient route was to drive 3 hrs to Indianapolis and then take a 3 hr train to Chicago from there. Literally, the passenger rail network in the US is so bad that the fastest and cheapest way to travel by train is to do it as little as possible.
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That's comparing Apples to Shampoo. To completely different concepts and it's not an either/or situation.
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a space elevator
You'd have to harness carbon nanotubes first... then deal with all the debris in LEO, then come up with an elevator that doesn't take days to reach GEO (granted the counterweight can rest there and the cab can stop sooner).
wrote last edited by [email protected]Easy, just attach a huge rocket to the bottom of the elevator, problem solved. Oh, use AI to design the rocket, make the ticketing system use block chain, and when you get to orbit, a robot remotely operated by a human on the ground (but prentends to be fully autonomous) takes a picture of you and generates an NFT of it that you can purchase for 35000 USD in the gift shop.
I'll be over here swimming in my money pool.
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Houses don't stand long on their own. It takes a significant amount of time and money to keep these things from filling up with mold or collapsing.
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US Train travel has actually gotten worse since 1996.
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In Capitalist nations, the further we are from the era of peak Unions and in general civil society movements (which was just after WWII) the slower infrastructure improves from one year to the next, something visible not just in trains but at all levels (even National Health Services for those countries which have them).
The same thing will happen in China now that they're getting more Capitalist than Socialist.
It was never the Capitalist part doing the kind of improvements that benefit most people, it was the stuff outside Capitalism (that used it as a Trade Philosophy only) constraining it and guiding it for policy ends which were independent of Capitalism.
This of course accelerated with Neoliberalism, since that stuff is mainly about making Capitalism the sole definer of policy, or in other words make Capitalism the entirety of politics, hence unconstrained and unguided by interests other than those of Money.
Capitalism is reasonably decent at optimizing Trade in the short and mid-term, but is completelly shit for non-Trade interests such as Quality Of Life, as well as for anything which doesn't have direct and reasonably immediate action-consequence links such as situations where negative effects are very delayed in time (for example, companies enshittifying their products but keeping on going for years on the inertia of brand name) or emergent in nature (i.e. things that appear due to the accumulation of the actions of many actors, such as Global Warming).
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a space elevator
You'd have to harness carbon nanotubes first... then deal with all the debris in LEO, then come up with an elevator that doesn't take days to reach GEO (granted the counterweight can rest there and the cab can stop sooner).
This is a joke meme that doesn't mean anything ..... just like the American public transport system.
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That requires political will to achieve objectives other than wealth maximization, or in other words a political philosophy other than Capitalism which, at least sometimes, is dominant over Capitalism.
The whole point of Neoliberalism from the beginning was eliminate those and make Capitalism the dominant political philosophy rather than just a trade philosophy, so almost 50 years into it the effects are all around us and painful to see.
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Concrete doesn't house CO2. When they created Biodome2, the engineers didn't factor in the curing time and CO2 output and the scientists had to vent the facility or suffocate.
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And now wait for five years and see if the Chinese one is still there.
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America: if ain’t broke don’t fix it
Every other country: yah it’s time, what are our new requirements? -
And now wait for five years and see if the Chinese one is still there.
Americans: "Nice infrastructure. Would be a shame if we had to come over there and liberate it."
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https://www.pekingnology.com/p/china-massively-overbuilt-high-speed
Good luck dealing with that financial bomb.
Given that we here in the US are still trying g to work out from under 150 year old rail infrastructure, I don’t think they need to worry about it for a while.
Rail generally lasts longer than roads even if you don’t maintain it. We’ve proven that
