Need a keyboard with a dedicated "slop" button
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Can be applied to any new technology. This comic was made before generative AI was a thing.
As always, there's an xkcd for that....lol
To quickly further expand on my previous example with a few I thought of afterwards,
- the wax cylinder will kill live music
- the radio will kill live music
- the TV will kill radio
- the airplane will kill the cruise lines
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"AI" in videogames is basically never powered by large models like LLMs or Stable Diffusion or others. The fact you compare them only demonstrates how fucking little you actually know about this topic you are BLINDLY defending.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Not sure why you're getting downvoted, most video game enemies do not learn. They can have some clever algorithms, but they don't know anything about how you've responded in the past and which of their tactics work better against you. Have they been trained on player interaction at all? I would love to see some learning NPCs in games and would be happy to dial down graphics settings to power them instead.
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Because it's true.
It's broadly true, and that's more to do with how it is used than what it is.
If an amoral corporation is providing it as a service, you can bet it's using energy as cheap and dirty as it can get away with, and using as much water as it wants.
But that's not the only way. You can run these things with renewable energy and no water. In those cases, the training is still a problem of course.
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It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.
Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.
AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.
To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:
Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.
Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.
[…] Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody […]
This feels like a hasty generalization. For example, if one is experiencing gender dysphoria, we could assume that misgendering them with their undesired pronouns would cause them psychological distress ^[1]^ — ie harm.
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Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person experiences due to inconsistency between their gender identity—their personal sense of their own gender—and their sex assigned at birth.
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Not sure why you're getting downvoted, most video game enemies do not learn. They can have some clever algorithms, but they don't know anything about how you've responded in the past and which of their tactics work better against you. Have they been trained on player interaction at all? I would love to see some learning NPCs in games and would be happy to dial down graphics settings to power them instead.
Most game ai is state machines and just extensions of the gameloop
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Usually we'd use the term "OOP" to refer to the OP of the original post in this context. Helps make it clearer.
Object Oriented Programming
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I agree with you in spirit, but I think at this point AI uses less global energy than video games, and the internet generally seems to think video games good, AI bad.
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Object Oriented Programming
Context clues would make it obvious that that is not what's meant.
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AI Slop Eaters need to know their bullshit is unacceptable, Fuck AI.
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I wasn't talking about AI at all, I was talking about people talking about AI.
AFAICT the OP was talking about vocaloid.
https://sexygaywizard.tumblr.com/post/739313272247009280/some-of-yall-will-see-the-word-ai-and-freak-out#notesWell when you're done not talking about AI feel free to join the discussion.
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[…] Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody […]
This feels like a hasty generalization. For example, if one is experiencing gender dysphoria, we could assume that misgendering them with their undesired pronouns would cause them psychological distress ^[1]^ — ie harm.
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Gender dysphoria (GD) is the distress a person experiences due to inconsistency between their gender identity—their personal sense of their own gender—and their sex assigned at birth.
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That is a willful misinterpretation of what I wrote.
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That is a willful misinterpretation of what I wrote.
wrote last edited by [email protected]How so? It wasn't my intent to misrepresent your words. That being said, I do apologize if I've accidentally (and potentially carelessly) misinterpreted what you said. I'll gladly fix my comment if you help me understand where my interpretation went wrong
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As always, there's an xkcd for that....lol
To quickly further expand on my previous example with a few I thought of afterwards,
- the wax cylinder will kill live music
- the radio will kill live music
- the TV will kill radio
- the airplane will kill the cruise lines
Are cruise lines as a mode of transportation still around? Cruise ships are for leisure now, but they were previously much more prevalent.
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It's wild that OP would think these two things are equivalent.
Pronouns are a thing that harms nobody, and the people frothing at the mouth are going out of their way to hurt people who did nothing wrong.
AI (in its most common meaning at this time in pop culture) at the minimum is wasting electricity (and it's associated climate impact), and has the potential to totally decimate the job market and usher in an era of inequality that we haven't seen for hundreds of years, while simultaneously stealing from artists. The people frothing at the mouth aren't hurting anyone.
To use a bit of hyperbole, it's kinda like if you said:
Some of y'all see "white power" and freak out without processing anything that's being said, like a conservative who sees a mixed race couple.
Like pretty clearly people have a good reason for freaking out when they see that, and the other side of the equation are just bad people.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I don't think OP thinks they are actually equivalent though, it's just a satirical comparison.
Another comparison could be vegans. Environmental impact of meat consumption is huge and it also has the more obvious harm and ethical issues.
Vegans get a lot of shit anyway, but imagine if every comment or post about meat, regardless of where it was or in what context got a barrage of abrasive comments from vegans?
You will never convince someone of your cause if you're a dick to them. It's a huge internet trait to just go full meltdown at everything rather than talk with some you don't agree with to aim for a better outcome.
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How so? It wasn't my intent to misrepresent your words. That being said, I do apologize if I've accidentally (and potentially carelessly) misinterpreted what you said. I'll gladly fix my comment if you help me understand where my interpretation went wrong
The comment was referring to preferred pronouns as just "pronouns" because the cultural zeitgeist has conflated the two. There are tons of right wing assholes that say that they "refuse to use pronouns at all" without processing the difference between "preferred pronouns" and the grammatical construct of pronouns as a whole.
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There definitely is a very real "AI derangement syndrome" kinda thing going around among some. It's like...we can be opposed to the use of AI to take away people's jobs while simultaneously dumbing down culture, without throwing out the ways it can actually be used by workers to improve their work output or the experience for them of doing the work. I'm not familiar with Kdenlive, but it sounds similar to Photoshop's generative fill, and that's a fantastic feature. Using AI to do a better version of what content-aware fill has done for over a decade. People who are opposed even to these uses need to pull their heads in, because they make it much harder to effectively oppose the real problems with AI.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Your comment makes sense IMO.
To make an enormous simplification, it's like those who screamed "rape!" because someone had looked (in a wrong way) at them. It removes the credibility of real rape.
Sorry, it's early and I couldn't find a nicer analogy, I posted it anyways because it's an important distinction IMO, "AI" isn't burning the planet or taking your jobs, some saves your grandma from cancer, LLM and image generators does.
Also, and this is only what I think, Art is also used in this way, some person drawing a panda for some company is now an Artist. I mean maybe they are but that panda can be made by an image generator (if it can be done cheaply) and free up their creative potential to do other things.
And also, it's not like someone has a plan how to make things better, it's just "forbid it" (good luck with that) or being angry online.
The world is black and white for many people.
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AI Slop Eaters need to know their bullshit is unacceptable, Fuck AI.
In your opinion, how should AI be handled now that it is out of the box?
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Without training, but once you've trained one model then that model can be used by millions.
An equivalent comparison would be the resources used by millions learning Photoshop in order to use it in the first place.
More like the resources used to develop Photoshop.
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Art is art, it doesn't matter what tool or medium was used, what matters is it reflects the artists intention or vision.
Well, is it really your vision or intention if it pulled from the efforts and thoughts of a million others to generate your picture?
Every art is pulled from the efforts and thoughts of million others.
Star Wars is pulled from Dune, which on itself was based upon Middle Eastern History and Religions.
Everything is build on the shoulders of giants.
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Pretty insulting comparison, tbh.
Pronouns: Expanding language to communicate the humanity of other people.
AI: Distilling language to package human communication as a sellable product.
It is supposed to be insulting, to make you think about it.
Like it shows your definition of AI is lacking. Nothing about AI says it needs to be able to be sold. That is the Capitalist take on it. Because they want to sell everything.
AI (or LLM as you describe it) is nothing more than computer generated text. It says nothing about how it should be generated or what is should be used for.
In that context, if your mind immediately goes to slop when AI is mentioned, then you are no different than the ones who start fuming when pronouns are mentioned.
