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Skyblivion, the fan remake of Oblivion in Skyrim's engine, nears completion

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  • Z [email protected]

    This is why people censor the word "G*mer"

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    Why do people censor the word gamer?

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      Exactly! I hate when people keep saying Bethesda "screwed over" mod devs, as if making a free mod takes precedence over someone who actually works for the game studio being told by their boss to make this update happen.

      There's too much going on at the company for someone to try to track down mod authors to "get their permission"

      It would be like you offering me a place to stay and asking if I'm okay with you doing housework. Like I have no say, it's your house, you need to do regular maintenance.

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      I disagree with the fundamental assertion that work is more important when it's paid.

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      • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

        Avowed's story is pretty mid, but it's still much better than either Oblivion or Skyrim's.

        Exploration-wise, of course Oblivion and Skyrim are better. That's never been Obsidian's focus.

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        Lol no , how are you writing that seriously.

        The only thing avowed does better than any other game is being a massive turd sandwich 🤣🤣🤣

        And that's good if you like it, but please don't tell everyone else that you are eating melted chocolate LMAO 🤣

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        • simple@lemm.eeS [email protected]

          This is a weird take. Bethesda isn't getting in the way of mods and actively supports them, it's not like they pushed an update to screw over Fallout London, they're not going to get permission from mod creators to work on their own franchise.

          If Bethesda does make their own remake, I fail to see how that hurts the people working on Skyblivion. It's their franchise, they can do whatever they want.

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          Perhaps he heard the same thing I did - Bethesda announced a soon to be released refresh of the game.

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          • S [email protected]

            Yeah, it's a more immersive and interesting world. I also prefer the quest journal over map markers, make you actually read and interpret shit instead of fast travelling to the nearest pip. You also can't just be the boss of every faction, they have incompatible goals.

            And it does say when you break a main quest so you can revert your save. Just don't be a murderhobo.

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            I'm not ignoring anything, I don't know what is and isn't in the game, what's why I asked.

            Couldn't you just kill primary quest givers and be locked out of the game?

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              I disagree with the fundamental assertion that work is more important when it's paid.

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              Don't get me wrong, fuck Bethesda, but they're the owners of the IP...whatever they say is more important is more important, paid or not...

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                Don't get me wrong, fuck Bethesda, but they're the owners of the IP...whatever they say is more important is more important, paid or not...

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                I disagree with the fundamental assertion that fiction can be owned

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                  You really want to make the game infinite, create smooth way for s player to travel between each chapter making the entire world one huge game

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                    I disagree with the fundamental assertion that fiction can be owned

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                    And that's completely valid. However, under the current legal framework, that simply isn't the case.

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                      And that's completely valid. However, under the current legal framework, that simply isn't the case.

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                      Why are you using a state's laws to determine your own sense of morality?

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                      • S [email protected]

                        Lol no , how are you writing that seriously.

                        The only thing avowed does better than any other game is being a massive turd sandwich 🤣🤣🤣

                        And that's good if you like it, but please don't tell everyone else that you are eating melted chocolate LMAO 🤣

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                        As a TES fan, ew. Don't attack people based on their preferences.

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                        • samus12345@lemm.eeS [email protected]

                          Avowed's story is pretty mid, but it's still much better than either Oblivion or Skyrim's.

                          Exploration-wise, of course Oblivion and Skyrim are better. That's never been Obsidian's focus.

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                          I don't think it's even possible to untangle storytelling from experience in TES games. Their magic is that they immerse the player in a way no other game ever managed to, in my opinion. Every stone is part of the lore. And when you put those games into the time context they belong, you see the masterpiece.

                          That said, Avowed did a fairly good job, and storytelling has also advanced in 14 years since the last TES game.

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                          • G [email protected]

                            Why are you using a state's laws to determine your own sense of morality?

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                            Because personal beliefs and the laws to which you are upheld are two different things? I didn't say I agree with the law. Why are you assuming my beliefs?

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                            • N [email protected]

                              Because personal beliefs and the laws to which you are upheld are two different things? I didn't say I agree with the law. Why are you assuming my beliefs?

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                              Because you said what they say is important is more important. That sounds like a subjective opinion to me, not an interpretation of the law.

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                                Because you said what they say is important is more important. That sounds like a subjective opinion to me, not an interpretation of the law.

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                                Well, if they own the IP, under the framework under which we live, their will is factually more important. 🤷‍♀️

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                                  Well, if they own the IP, under the framework under which we live, their will is factually more important. 🤷‍♀️

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                                  No. Importance is a metaphysical construct, not a legal one.

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                                    No. Importance is a metaphysical construct, not a legal one.

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                                    Right. So whoever did the update at Bethesda found it important to do that update. The developers of FO:London found it important to release their mod. If you ask the Bethesda employee they'd think their work was more important. If you ask the FO:L team they would say their work was more important. How do you determine whose importance was more important?

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                                      Right. So whoever did the update at Bethesda found it important to do that update. The developers of FO:London found it important to release their mod. If you ask the Bethesda employee they'd think their work was more important. If you ask the FO:L team they would say their work was more important. How do you determine whose importance was more important?

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                                      I think Fallout London adds more to the game and was wanted by more people. Democracy and utility seem to be agreed on this case, and those are the two measures I use to determine importance.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        I mean, it would suck for any mod using F4SE. The answer for what to do is the same as every other update - recommend people not update until F4SE is updated.

                                        Did they have their own plugin DLL or were they just using F4SE as is? If the former that would make it suck for them even worse since they'd potentially need to find some new hook addresses of their own and wait for the new F4SE and then reconcile their DLL.against that and then test it all again to make sure nothing broke.

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                                        Yeah, that's what Fallout Londond creators advised - delay the update. A lot of folk got already hit with it by this time tho, so a lot of people were pissed.

                                        And they DID insert their own IIRC, may be wrong on that one.

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                                          I think Fallout London adds more to the game and was wanted by more people. Democracy and utility seem to be agreed on this case, and those are the two measures I use to determine importance.

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                                          And I'm going to say more people wanted official ultrawide support. Now what? Are we supposed to poll every time someone wants to do something? If I feel like important for me to jaywalk and I step in front of a car and the driver feels it's more important for them to not stop what then? Are we supposed to block traffic to until we figure out whose action is more important so they'd have right of way?

                                          This is why we have laws, because everything does not need to be looked at case by case and sometimes we can collectively agree that one way is always better than the other way.

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