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'We Are Witnessing a New Brain Drain' as Scientists Flee America for France

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  • Z [email protected]

    No no no, you're trying to be a better place than the US. Stop talking like them.

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    This conversation is a retard magnet, unfortunately.

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    • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

      Y'all need data analysts?

      Data analysts with decades of wine industry experience?

      I know a guy...

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      You may have a look to Bordeaux's University. There are litterally school and research center for wine 🤣

      https://www.u-bordeaux.fr/universite/organisation-et-fonctionnement/composantes-de-formation/isvv

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      • Z [email protected]

        Germany needs plenty. But only the cheap ones with expert knowledge. That’s not how they would word it though

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        Well, the correct german word is to say 'Fachkräftemangel' which in my experience translates to 'We need someone with 20+ years of experience, that we can pay like an intern'

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        • B [email protected]

          I voted for Trump and have to take Life Saving Medication once a week and I DONT CARE! There's NOTHING Scientists have done that GOD cant!

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          This so called "GOD", is he in the room right now ?

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            i bet canadians would not be so angry if people like them (colour, religion, mindset!) would be the immigrants but according to this:
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_immigration_statistics

            60% are people from third world cuntries.

            i cant blame the canadians!

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            You should probably go back to whatever hole conservatives hide in nowadays. Xitter seems more your speed for trolling

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              we deport and then the can come the legal way!

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              dude, as much as i'm anti-immigration, you're overdoing it, and also, your proposals are ineffective.

              in germany, for example, the population that immigrated since 2012 makes up approx. 3% of the total population. that means that the population is roughly 3% larger than it would be without that immigration.

              that is what you should be talking about. 3% larger population means higher workforce (supply of labor), and therefore lower wages (prices for labor). That is because the immigrants add almost no demand for labor (since they have a low buying power).

              Demand for labor is mainly driven by growth, and we've had two big waves of growth since 1800: Quantitative (industrialization) and qualitative (IT work). Since both of these two waves end their growth approx. now, the demand for labor goes down. There's no point in importing more labor force, it would only make the wages go down. That is what you have to talk about: the decreasing wages through the import of cheap labor. It's essentially wage-dumping in the own country. That is what the people should be talking about. Not racism. We're not better people than them, we just need to get the workforce smaller to drive the wages up.

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              • P [email protected]

                Totally would have joined them if it wasn't for my stupid bitch of an ex-wife.

                Good luck guys.

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                I’m in the same boat. Just be consistent and persistent. It’s a lot harder that you’re divorced with kids, but you could make a good argument for the school quality in France for your kids if they’re young enough to adapt to French. Study the language as much as possible before moving there; the closer you are to fluency, the easier you’ll have it. Paris is a crutch, explore small cities to practice your French.

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                • J [email protected]

                  Left for Taiwan in the first Trump presidency. Haven't been back since.

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                  Cool, what you're doing over there?

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                    I assume you're taking a big hit salary-wise (a trade-off I would make, for the record).

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                    Certain stuff, and especially rent, is a lot cheaper in Europe, though.
                    It was a pretty big shock for us when so many of the Ukrainian refugees that arrived during recent years came in SUVs, and they looked quite new, too. But in Ukraine, one of Europe's poorest countries by far, cars cost a lot less, too.

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                      I assume you're taking a big hit salary-wise (a trade-off I would make, for the record).

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                      Well I'm going back to school there first to get an actual degree. After that though yeah I'm expecting to make around 1/3 what I am currently, between switching countries and going from automation engineering to level design. I think it'll be a worthwhile trade-off too

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                        Myself included lol.

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                        • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                          Y'all need data analysts?

                          Data analysts with decades of wine industry experience?

                          I know a guy...

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                          Sadly, France doesn't have a very well developed wine industry yet!

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                            Well I'm going back to school there first to get an actual degree. After that though yeah I'm expecting to make around 1/3 what I am currently, between switching countries and going from automation engineering to level design. I think it'll be a worthwhile trade-off too

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                            Out of interest, since moving continents is no small matter in my opinion; what makes that, and making a third in terms of salary vs the US, a worthwhile trade-off?

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                              If only I had money....

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                                Well I'm going back to school there first to get an actual degree. After that though yeah I'm expecting to make around 1/3 what I am currently, between switching countries and going from automation engineering to level design. I think it'll be a worthwhile trade-off too

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                                If you take into account all the things you don't have to pay, that salary is not that low

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                                  Cool, what you're doing over there?

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                                  Website optimization. My customers are global so I can work remotely.

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                                    I assume you're taking a big hit salary-wise (a trade-off I would make, for the record).

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                                    Cost of living. You earn a lot less in Europe/ UK, but you pay far less to have a basic standard of living, and enjoy the safety net.

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                                      Myself included lol.

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                                      Pas besoin du "même", juste: "moi aussi" 🙂

                                      J'espère que la France vous plaira, bonne adaptation!

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                                      • paupersserenade@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                                        You should probably go back to whatever hole conservatives hide in nowadays. Xitter seems more your speed for trolling

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                                        Reddit, I heard

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                                        • P [email protected]

                                          No, I mean I have a kid here. I cant take my kid with me to France. I've thought about asking her, but I can just imagine the the shit that will start.

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                                          If you went and got set up the kid would have somewhere to escape if it comes to that.

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