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'We Are Witnessing a New Brain Drain' as Scientists Flee America for France

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  • ? Guest

    I assume you're taking a big hit salary-wise (a trade-off I would make, for the record).

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    Certain stuff, and especially rent, is a lot cheaper in Europe, though.
    It was a pretty big shock for us when so many of the Ukrainian refugees that arrived during recent years came in SUVs, and they looked quite new, too. But in Ukraine, one of Europe's poorest countries by far, cars cost a lot less, too.

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    • ? Guest

      I assume you're taking a big hit salary-wise (a trade-off I would make, for the record).

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      Well I'm going back to school there first to get an actual degree. After that though yeah I'm expecting to make around 1/3 what I am currently, between switching countries and going from automation engineering to level design. I think it'll be a worthwhile trade-off too

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        Myself included lol.

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        • arotrios@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          Y'all need data analysts?

          Data analysts with decades of wine industry experience?

          I know a guy...

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          Sadly, France doesn't have a very well developed wine industry yet!

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            Well I'm going back to school there first to get an actual degree. After that though yeah I'm expecting to make around 1/3 what I am currently, between switching countries and going from automation engineering to level design. I think it'll be a worthwhile trade-off too

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            Out of interest, since moving continents is no small matter in my opinion; what makes that, and making a third in terms of salary vs the US, a worthwhile trade-off?

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              If only I had money....

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                Well I'm going back to school there first to get an actual degree. After that though yeah I'm expecting to make around 1/3 what I am currently, between switching countries and going from automation engineering to level design. I think it'll be a worthwhile trade-off too

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                If you take into account all the things you don't have to pay, that salary is not that low

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                • ? Guest

                  Cool, what you're doing over there?

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                  Website optimization. My customers are global so I can work remotely.

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                  • ? Guest

                    I assume you're taking a big hit salary-wise (a trade-off I would make, for the record).

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                    Cost of living. You earn a lot less in Europe/ UK, but you pay far less to have a basic standard of living, and enjoy the safety net.

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                      Myself included lol.

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                      Pas besoin du "même", juste: "moi aussi" 🙂

                      J'espère que la France vous plaira, bonne adaptation!

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                      • paupersserenade@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                        You should probably go back to whatever hole conservatives hide in nowadays. Xitter seems more your speed for trolling

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                        Reddit, I heard

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                          No, I mean I have a kid here. I cant take my kid with me to France. I've thought about asking her, but I can just imagine the the shit that will start.

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                          If you went and got set up the kid would have somewhere to escape if it comes to that.

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                          • ? Guest

                            i hope they are engineers or doctors. not the "science" of gender studies. lol

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                            I hope you have the day you deserve. lol.

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                              Sadly, France doesn't have a very well developed wine industry yet!

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                              If only some Americans could show them the way.. I'm sure all they're missing are some sick viral marketing campaigns, maybe replace the corks with sports-drink style suck-on plastic caps and some bold colourful text on the labels. Of course we'll also have to replace the grapes with corn syrup to improve margins.

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                              • ? Guest

                                i know. it was a rhetorical question.
                                Do you know this type? No! xD 🙂
                                (i agree with your first paragraph. i wont make such a question again, its dumb.)

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                                Assuming this Lucas guy is in Europe, I vote we exchange him for 1 or more immigrants. Bye Lucas, we won't see you again since you hate immigration.

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                                • B [email protected]

                                  I voted for Trump and have to take Life Saving Medication once a week and I DONT CARE! There's NOTHING Scientists have done that GOD cant!

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                                  Wait...not sarcasm??!

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                                  • crimeschneck@feddit.nlC [email protected]

                                    If they’re from the EU

                                    This part doesn't make sense. Why would they be from the EU if they were "planning to try and immigrate to Europe"?

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                                    That's true, I misread the OP 🤦‍♂️

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                                    • I [email protected]

                                      What's wrong with gender studies? Fiji has three genders!

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                                      Dang. That's cool.

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                                        Myself included lol.

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                                        Shit I was studying German.

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                                        • A [email protected]

                                          Please stop parroting this notion that Canada's problems mirror those if the united states.

                                          The number of so called "illegals" pales in comparison to the number of foreign investors buying up property and jacking IP the rental rates.

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                                          I'm just going to correct you here. The problem if Canadian housing isn't foreign investors (they account by like 2% of the real state market), but the absurd zoning laws and the "missing middle".

                                          Check our "oh the urbanity" youtube channel, they do a really good analysis on Canadian houses markets.

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