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  • drdystopia@lemy.lolD [email protected]

    Don't do it OP, traveling and broadening your mind might make you enjoy life and then you'd not be so nonchalant about deleting yourself. You might end up on prison, where you'll suffer doubly due to your newfound love of life and freedom! Better semi-suffer in an empty existence for the rest of your life like most others.

    Or like, just stay on a foreign beach with your embezzled money and a drink in your hand and never come back. Actually seems like the best option overall...

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    Not problems ending up ON prison, you just jump down the side.

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      Surprisingly enough it's incredibly technically feasible.

      The biggest challenge is actually maintaining good standing with the federal government because over the last 20 years or so they've been racking on more and more income taxes on foreign income, and if you live abroad as a US citizen you're still legally required to pay income tax. Then once expats started renouncing their citizenship because of the rapidly increasing cost of maintaining a citizenship they no longer needed the federal government started throwing more and more barriers up to make it harde and more time consuming to renounce your citizenship

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      Just claim you are secretly mexican or something, I heard that works quite well.

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        Relevant

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        Costs 2k 11 years ago.

        Anyone got today's rates?

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        • samdell@lemmy.eco.brS [email protected]
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          > open an llc
          > take out a business loan under llc
          > travel the world on a business trip
          > declare llc bankrupt
          > personal finances unaffected
          > repeat

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            He did go down that path but he wasn’t fully out of depression by then, as part of it he needed to make some monthly payments to the lawyer as I recall, and because he was still on the fence of offing himself he didn’t keep up with it, and once it’s filed and not followed up with, it’s harder for it to get approved in the future, so he kind of fucked himself.

            Also half of the loans were government Covid aid that he applied for even though he wasn’t eligible, he applied to everything and they sent him a lot of money because at that point in the pandemic the government was writing blank cheques that they would just follow up with and scrutinize later.

            All of that government money is not eligible to be taken care of through bankruptcy, so he would still owe half of the debt regardless.

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            Also half of the loans were government Covid aid that he applied for even though he wasn’t eligible

            Ahh, so he did a bunch of fraud. The reason the government was writing blank cheques was because people were dying in the millions and businesses were failing left and right. He's lucky he's not in prison.

            I'm glad he's doing better now, but I can't help but think of the people who needed that money and might not have gotten it in time (or maybe at all) because of what he did. Does he ever think about that, do you know?

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              Not problems ending up ON prison, you just jump down the side.

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              Hope you've got some of that broken leg serum

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                As someone who games banks as best I can this would absolutely not work.

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                As best you legally can…

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                  As best you legally can…

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                  Ah, yes, let's go with that.

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                    > open an llc
                    > take out a business loan under llc
                    > travel the world on a business trip
                    > declare llc bankrupt
                    > personal finances unaffected
                    > repeat

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                    take out a business loan under llc

                    You need to have a feasable business to do that part.

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                    • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                      take out a business loan under llc

                      You need to have a feasable business to do that part.

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                      Not if you say you do ✨AI✨

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                        > open an llc
                        > take out a business loan under llc
                        > travel the world on a business trip
                        > declare llc bankrupt
                        > personal finances unaffected
                        > repeat

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                        And I still have to be alive afterwards? Pass.

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                          Wouldn't work, after this you'd love life

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                            You can do this, but their response will be to tank your credit. Which makes it hard to get any new loans. Including home loans. Also makes it hard to rent a place, since almost all landlords do a credit check. Hard to get a normal auto loan if you need to buy a car. And iirc, your credit card interest rates will go up.

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                            When i said small debts, im talking under 100 bucks. That doesnt go on my credit report.

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                              Also half of the loans were government Covid aid that he applied for even though he wasn’t eligible

                              Ahh, so he did a bunch of fraud. The reason the government was writing blank cheques was because people were dying in the millions and businesses were failing left and right. He's lucky he's not in prison.

                              I'm glad he's doing better now, but I can't help but think of the people who needed that money and might not have gotten it in time (or maybe at all) because of what he did. Does he ever think about that, do you know?

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                              Yes he is aware of the moral implications, clearly the government wasn’t holding back assistance to anyone at the time. Let me just show him your unconstructive comment real quick so he can get down on himself.

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                                As someone who games banks as best I can this would absolutely not work.

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                                Share your wisdom on how you would best take out a loan before suicide

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                                  Yes he is aware of the moral implications, clearly the government wasn’t holding back assistance to anyone at the time. Let me just show him your unconstructive comment real quick so he can get down on himself.

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                                  I'm really glad that he's aware of the moral implications of what he did.

                                  Doesn't sound like you are though. I mean, you just admitted he committed fraud in order to appropriate money meant for people who actually needed it, and now:

                                  • you want to justify it by saying "clearly the government wasn't holding back assistance to anyone at the time" as though it being an honour system at the time made what he did okay;
                                  • you're pulling that after you first tried to paper over that they weren't just any old loans he took out; in addition to which
                                  • you want to try and paint me as the bad guy.

                                  You serious, dude? You're aware that I didn't commit fraud during the pandemic, right? And it wasn't hard either, I just didn't apply for relief I wasn't eligible for. You're aware he wasn't scamming a bank, he was scamming people in need?

                                  It's okay to make mistakes, but he is lucky he's not in prison, and if he can own what he did like an adult then so can you.

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                                    Wouldn't work, after this you'd love life

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                                    Classic life bamboozle

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                                      If we all did this capitalism would collapse.

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                                      "if we all stopped working and just did drugs and hookers the economy would collapse" is not that deep of a thought.

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                                        If we all did this capitalism would collapse.

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                                        "if we all stopped working and just did drugs and hookers the economy would collapse" is not that deep of a thought.

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                                          Wouldn't work, after this you'd love life

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                                          As someone who has travelled and done a lot of random things in my 40 years of life:

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