Florida's plan to replace migrant workers with children falls apart
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what's the news here? They are basically using the same arguments the US used to not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child. Minors being the parents property is still an almost uncontroversial position in the US even if people don't phrase it like that.
The news is that USA is still a disgusting labor camp. Always has been.
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Good thing the north left a loophole in the constitution after the civil war just for a situation like this.
Some things never change.
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I mean, that's one way to look at it.
The more accurate way to look at is that the American right hates migrants and people of color so much that they would force their children into hard labor just to make sure nobody who sounds or looks different receives any kind of benefit.
wrote last edited by [email protected]the American right hates migrants and people of color so much that they would force
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I can't wait to be out of Florida
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So let me get this straight. The US needs Migrants so much that we're needing to replace them with teenagers?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yes, if we remove our migrant population then we literally lose the majority of our food production workers. I think it'll also impact our construction work force, much of our factory workforce, our waitstaff, and various other jobs US citizens turn their noses up at - because those jobs literally would not sustain them and would destroy their bodies over time. Most of these jobs are sustained entirely by the desperation of immigrants trying to escape their prior circumstances.
Edit- added more detail in bold to make it clearer the the issue lies in how these jobs are conducted rather than being with US citizens.
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I mean, that's one way to look at it.
The more accurate way to look at is that the American right hates migrants and people of color so much that they would force their children into hard labor just to make sure nobody who sounds or looks different receives any kind of benefit.
Not their children.... other peoples children. You know... the poors... those kids can work long hours for low pay and since they are poor, they will be stupid enough to be happy about it. The people voting for this do not need to worry about it affecting their kids... or think they dont....
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lol do American politicians seriously try to frame child labor laws as taking away parents rights?
Of course! Especially those from the party that wants crops to be picked, but doesn't want anyone who would actually do it to exist or survive in our country. And because the term "child labor" in general is unpalatable to most people. For good reason...
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Yes, if we remove our migrant population then we literally lose the majority of our food production workers. I think it'll also impact our construction work force, much of our factory workforce, our waitstaff, and various other jobs US citizens turn their noses up at - because those jobs literally would not sustain them and would destroy their bodies over time. Most of these jobs are sustained entirely by the desperation of immigrants trying to escape their prior circumstances.
Edit- added more detail in bold to make it clearer the the issue lies in how these jobs are conducted rather than being with US citizens.
jobs US citizens turn their noses up at
Jobs that typically don't pay enough for the cost to your body, health, and mental sanity. The overlords love the illegal immigrant stuff because it lets them put the thumbscrews to the workers, both in terms of downward pressure to the wages paid out, and in terms of desperation so the people without other options are forced to work in horrible conditions for terrible pay.
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jobs US citizens turn their noses up at
Jobs that typically don't pay enough for the cost to your body, health, and mental sanity. The overlords love the illegal immigrant stuff because it lets them put the thumbscrews to the workers, both in terms of downward pressure to the wages paid out, and in terms of desperation so the people without other options are forced to work in horrible conditions for terrible pay.
That's a fair critique, I made it sound more like US citizens are snobby for rejecting underpaid, dangerous jobs when in reality the US's base infrastructure still entirely relies on a form of slave labor to persist. I should've been more nuanced with my description.
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The teenage babysitters I know demand a higher hourly rate than Target workers in my locale (at about $18/hr). I don't think the farmers are ready to pay that for young people who are not work hardened and can't keep their phones out of their hands for longer than 5 minutes. It is not like they will starve if they don't pick enough. After all, their parents will be there, helicoptering, handing them bottles of lifewater and snacks and uploading pics and vids on their phones on their social media accounts.
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The teenage babysitters I know demand a higher hourly rate than Target workers in my locale (at about $18/hr). I don't think the farmers are ready to pay that for young people who are not work hardened and can't keep their phones out of their hands for longer than 5 minutes. It is not like they will starve if they don't pick enough. After all, their parents will be there, helicoptering, handing them bottles of lifewater and snacks and uploading pics and vids on their phones on their social media accounts.
Why don't you go work in the field? We need all the top shots out there, get on it buddy.
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I mean, that’s how it used to be when I was growing up.
The fact that "how it used to be" in your childhood produced a scumbag like you is a compelling argument to not let people's childhoods be like that anymore.
I mean, that’s how it used to be when I was growing up.
Also, this is complete and utter bullshit. I'm older than Ron boy, and child labor laws predate me. The folks picking crops in the fields in the 80's and 90's were the same immigrants that are (or were, I guess) doing it today. And anyone who attended Yale almost certainly wasn't out picking crops as a kid. Like most members of the GOP, he has zero attachment to reality.
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There's I think a dollop on the brassero program that details a past program where they'd ship high schoolers to farms for the summer in an attempt to reduce migratory workers. The program failed immediately. Conservatives are insane in the literal definition of the word.
I haven't listened to the dollop in a minute but I'm pretty sure that same episode is literally about the first wave of illegal immigration propaganda in the US, talks about how the borders changed in the 1930s.
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I can't wait to be out of Florida
Best decision I ever made
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Wait what? you actually want fluoride in your drinkwater???
Yes because I don’t want to end up like Calgary and Juneau and I’m not a lunatic.
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So let me get this straight. The US needs Migrants so much that we're needing to replace them with teenagers?
This country has, throughout its entire history, relied heavily on immigrants to make up the shortfalls in its labor force. A full stoppage of immigration is going to collapse the United States economy. Sooner than later.
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Of course! Especially those from the party that wants crops to be picked, but doesn't want anyone who would actually do it to exist or survive in our country. And because the term "child labor" in general is unpalatable to most people. For good reason...
Sounds like a right nightmare ya got goin on there bud
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On the same day this came out, University of Florida scientists announced a possible new treatment for cancer - not a type of cancer, ALL cancers. It works by stimulating the immune system to kill the tumor, and it's based on a treatment for glioblastoma that had highly successful human trials last year. Hard to believe these same two developments both came out of the nutbin of Florida.
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The teenage babysitters I know demand a higher hourly rate than Target workers in my locale (at about $18/hr). I don't think the farmers are ready to pay that for young people who are not work hardened and can't keep their phones out of their hands for longer than 5 minutes. It is not like they will starve if they don't pick enough. After all, their parents will be there, helicoptering, handing them bottles of lifewater and snacks and uploading pics and vids on their phones on their social media accounts.
Children should grow up and use their energy for learning, so that they aren't doomed to become slaves for the prison industry in a future where people without solid education are not able to do more than work in the fields or clean offices.
But i know, y'all don't need that, because all the stuff that made america great in the 50's and 60's was invented by farm workers and office cleaners... or might it be that all that made america great came from the minds of the top educated of their fields, you know, scientists - you will need new ones in the future, since the ones living right now are fleeing the US as fast as possible to escape the braindead fascism that has taken hold of the country.
You should start begging your children to stay in school, your future depends on it.
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jobs US citizens turn their noses up at
Jobs that typically don't pay enough for the cost to your body, health, and mental sanity. The overlords love the illegal immigrant stuff because it lets them put the thumbscrews to the workers, both in terms of downward pressure to the wages paid out, and in terms of desperation so the people without other options are forced to work in horrible conditions for terrible pay.
wrote last edited by [email protected]It's telling that they blame the migrants workers for "stealing the jerbs" instead of the businesses that hire migrants workers in order to get around paying a fair wage
Why blame a white capitalist when anyone else can take the fall?
