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Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.

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  • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap?

    On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.

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    They are just testing their power, make you get used to it. Someday they will make pressure for some ideology. Whenever there's a morality argument in place prepare to get fucked.

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      If they’re going to enforce that rule impartially, they’ll have to ban Crusader Kings III as well.

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        After looking at the game list, I fully support this and urge anyone who doesn't to look at the banned games.

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        Everybody relax! The arbitrary moralizing exclusion of perfectly legal software was only stuff that sounds gross and unpopular.

        There's no way this censorship could affect anything benign, here in this era of unquestioned queer acceptance, free expression between adults, and reliable protection of individual rights.

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          Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles

          Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it

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          This is actually a really good idea. The people that want these kinda games are either underage horndogs on their parents computer, or able to use crypto.

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            As long as I get to keep my VR Paradise

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              Everybody relax! The arbitrary moralizing exclusion of perfectly legal software was only stuff that sounds gross and unpopular.

              There's no way this censorship could affect anything benign, here in this era of unquestioned queer acceptance, free expression between adults, and reliable protection of individual rights.

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              #105

              First they came for the incestuous anime foot job simulators, and I did not speak out, because I was not that freakydeaky

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                Arguing that corporate "beliefs" (image management) and interests take priority over societal order is ridiculous.

                Good thing I'm not arguing that.

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                why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?

                You'll excuse me for thinking this means you think corporate beliefs are more important than the social benefits of neutral financial institutions.

                To answer your question again without assuming anything about your opinion: they should be forced to process payments because they don't have beliefs, it's better for society if financial institutions only look at the business relevant portions of a business, and a legal obligation is perfectly sufficient to protect their business interests in reputation management. All the same reasons we don't let shipping companies refuse customers for morality reasons.

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                  There are countless other cryptocurrencies than Bitcoin

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                  And literally not a single one of them is useful for the purpose of quick, efficient, and secure transactions.

                  Blockchains are slow and inefficient by design, since they need to build consensus. On any sufficiently popular blockchain, transactions are either fast or secure, never both.

                  The "fix" that the crypto industry has come up with is to re-invent banks, except with even more crime and virtually no regulations. Now you're just entrusting FTX with your coins to enjoy "immediate" transfers, how could that possibly go wrong?

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                    Gamers on Lemmy think Steam is THEIR corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire. You get downvoted for criticizing steam for anything, or even pointing out that they’re a corporation run by a billionaire and they don’t actually care about you.

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                    It's porn. We can focus on more important things billionaires are ruining.

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                      The problem is that they are a cartel, so we get in a place where a group of private businesses can dictate who can make money.

                      I think it's a great idea in theory that as a payment processor you can have influence on social changes. I think businesses should have clear ethics so that I can support those that match my own. If there were 50 processors to choose from that all had niches and different ethics, fine. But we have in reality one processor with finger puppets on asking us which puppet we like best.

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                        Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles

                        Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it

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                        Still waiting for NANO to become widespread 💀

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                          Payment processors should not be allowed to dictate what content they allow to be bought and what not. It's not their job to police people, let me live ffs

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                          Here's what i think is likely. For one reason or another, they get excessive refund/chargeback requests regarding these types of titles and decided to act as they don't think it's profitable.

                          I don't think they care what so ever what you buy, as long as it's profitable for them.

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                            If the US used something like pix, MasterCard, visa, etc, wouldn't have any power to do this, but they want to make Brazil delete pix from existence. Interesting.

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                            The central bank facilitating electronic cash flow makes so much more sense than letting random foreign corporations siphon billions in profit they clearly don't deserve in the slightest from your economy.

                            Good on Brazil for breaking free. There's finally been some push here in the EU for EPI/Wero, but progress has been frigid and online payment processing remains extremely fragmented to the point that if I buy something online outside the Benelux with a small vendor, chances are very high I will have to fall back to an American payment processor, which is insane.

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                                It's porn. We can focus on more important things billionaires are ruining.

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                                It's not about porn, It's about corporations dictating what type of content can be sold. You may not care about porn but what if they were to start going after LGBT stuff or something like that?

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                                  Payment processors and financial institutions sure do seem to hold disproportionate amounts of power.

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                                  • skullgrid@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                    On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap?

                                    On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.

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                                    As a form of protest, we should all start scooping up incest porn games.

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                                      Gamers on Lemmy think Steam is THEIR corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire. You get downvoted for criticizing steam for anything, or even pointing out that they’re a corporation run by a billionaire and they don’t actually care about you.

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                                      This is why I've been buying games on GOG that I have on Steam.

                                      Backups in case Gabe or a successor goes off the deep end

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                                        Oh shit, I saw that the original Leisure Suit Larry games are no longer for sale... wonder if this is why?

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                                        Naw. That's a rights issue, however they are available on GOG.

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                                          Or maybe using the payment processor's TOS allows them to remove pervy Ai horseshit without having to mod their own TOS. Slam dunk, frankly:

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