Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?
Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
why is valve obligated to serve up this garbage? simply not being party to it is the best answer.
still nothing explaining why valve should be serving up this garbage. just downvotes. weak.
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Oh shit, I saw that the original Leisure Suit Larry games are no longer for sale... wonder if this is why?
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Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
why is valve obligated to serve up this garbage? simply not being party to it is the best answer.
still nothing explaining why valve should be serving up this garbage. just downvotes. weak.
If you mean the games in question, well they aren't obligated and they've clearly chosen they don't care to bother anymore.
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Payment processors should not be allowed to dictate what content they allow to be bought and what not. It's not their job to police people, let me live ffs
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Only a matter of time before the same thing happens to itch.io
It started on itch, which I'm betting is one reason why so many moved to steam
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Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles
Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it
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::: spoiler Transcript
nickyflowers: It would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. The advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though their definitions of family and friendly are fucked. But since they're in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. TikTokers say things like "unalive" and "seggs" because they know death and sex are too adult for online. Online is for idiot babies only now because they're easier to market to.nickyflowers: Oh I'm sorry you're a trans adult? Super ban. You are super banned for life. You have upset Visa's feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. How could you do this to Google Ads?
:::Absolutely spot on. It reminds me of a comment I saw somewhere on here a few months ago where some clown used "seggs" and someone else responded to them and said they can just say sex because there aren't any algorithms here that would cause problems for them. The clown has a complete meltdown and ranted and raved in response about how they've been using "seggs" long before the internet or some wild shit like that and how dare anyone tell them that they don't have to use it here. The really fucked up thing was that he got a bunch of up votes and the person they lost their minds on was down voted to hell. I felt like I was losing my mind reading that interaction.
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Gamers on Lemmy think Steam is THEIR corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire. You get downvoted for criticizing steam for anything, or even pointing out that they’re a corporation run by a billionaire and they don’t actually care about you.
They don't care about me but they care about the service they provide. And that differs them from other corps. I also don't care about them, just of the service they provide. They provide better than most.
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On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap?
On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.
They are just testing their power, make you get used to it. Someday they will make pressure for some ideology. Whenever there's a morality argument in place prepare to get fucked.
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If they’re going to enforce that rule impartially, they’ll have to ban Crusader Kings III as well.
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After looking at the game list, I fully support this and urge anyone who doesn't to look at the banned games.
Everybody relax! The arbitrary moralizing exclusion of perfectly legal software was only stuff that sounds gross and unpopular.
There's no way this censorship could affect anything benign, here in this era of unquestioned queer acceptance, free expression between adults, and reliable protection of individual rights.
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Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles
Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it
This is actually a really good idea. The people that want these kinda games are either underage horndogs on their parents computer, or able to use crypto.
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As long as I get to keep my VR Paradise
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Everybody relax! The arbitrary moralizing exclusion of perfectly legal software was only stuff that sounds gross and unpopular.
There's no way this censorship could affect anything benign, here in this era of unquestioned queer acceptance, free expression between adults, and reliable protection of individual rights.
wrote last edited by [email protected]First they came for the incestuous anime foot job simulators, and I did not speak out, because I was not that freakydeaky
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Arguing that corporate "beliefs" (image management) and interests take priority over societal order is ridiculous.
Good thing I'm not arguing that.
why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?
You'll excuse me for thinking this means you think corporate beliefs are more important than the social benefits of neutral financial institutions.
To answer your question again without assuming anything about your opinion: they should be forced to process payments because they don't have beliefs, it's better for society if financial institutions only look at the business relevant portions of a business, and a legal obligation is perfectly sufficient to protect their business interests in reputation management. All the same reasons we don't let shipping companies refuse customers for morality reasons.
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There are countless other cryptocurrencies than Bitcoin
And literally not a single one of them is useful for the purpose of quick, efficient, and secure transactions.
Blockchains are slow and inefficient by design, since they need to build consensus. On any sufficiently popular blockchain, transactions are either fast or secure, never both.
The "fix" that the crypto industry has come up with is to re-invent banks, except with even more crime and virtually no regulations. Now you're just entrusting FTX with your coins to enjoy "immediate" transfers, how could that possibly go wrong?
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Gamers on Lemmy think Steam is THEIR corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire. You get downvoted for criticizing steam for anything, or even pointing out that they’re a corporation run by a billionaire and they don’t actually care about you.
It's porn. We can focus on more important things billionaires are ruining.
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The problem is that they are a cartel, so we get in a place where a group of private businesses can dictate who can make money.
I think it's a great idea in theory that as a payment processor you can have influence on social changes. I think businesses should have clear ethics so that I can support those that match my own. If there were 50 processors to choose from that all had niches and different ethics, fine. But we have in reality one processor with finger puppets on asking us which puppet we like best.
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Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles
Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it
Still waiting for NANO to become widespread
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Payment processors should not be allowed to dictate what content they allow to be bought and what not. It's not their job to police people, let me live ffs
Here's what i think is likely. For one reason or another, they get excessive refund/chargeback requests regarding these types of titles and decided to act as they don't think it's profitable.
I don't think they care what so ever what you buy, as long as it's profitable for them.
