Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
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These payment processors are businesses. They provide a service. Like valve does. It seems to me like you're making an argument for valve, but not for these other businesses which only differ in the service they provide.
If your point is "our society is too dependant on a small selection of payment processors and we need better options," that's a separate discussion and one I don't think I'd disagree with.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yes, Valve and Visa/MasterCard differ massively in their service. Valve operates a store within a specific industry, Visa/MasterCard process payments across our whole society.
It should be clear to anyone that payment providers must be held to a much stricter standard and have certain requirements of neutrality imposed on them. If not then in the best case you risk destroying the "free market" part of free market capitalism, worst case you're weakening democracy by letting unelected, unaccountable people decide what is and what isn't legal.
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After looking at the game list, I fully support this and urge anyone who doesn't to look at the banned games.
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Gamers on Lemmy think Steam is THEIR corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire. You get downvoted for criticizing steam for anything, or even pointing out that they’re a corporation run by a billionaire and they don’t actually care about you.
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This doesn't sound like a good idea in any way. Why the fuck do banks get to say how my money is used? They can literally eat my shit.
Eh, it sounds like a good idea that incest games are getting removed.
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Incorrect! Bitcoin transactions take 10 FUCKING MINUTES.
The costs are much worse than the time imo.
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Yes, Valve and Visa/MasterCard differ massively in their service. Valve operates a store within a specific industry, Visa/MasterCard process payments across our whole society.
It should be clear to anyone that payment providers must be held to a much stricter standard and have certain requirements of neutrality imposed on them. If not then in the best case you risk destroying the "free market" part of free market capitalism, worst case you're weakening democracy by letting unelected, unaccountable people decide what is and what isn't legal.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Well I find it a bit ironic to invoke the "free market" while simultaneously asserting they should not be free to choose who they go to market with. Isn't the point of the "free market" that if Visa or Mastercard won't facilitate the needs of the market, someone else will?
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After looking at the game list, I fully support this and urge anyone who doesn't to look at the banned games.
wrote last edited by [email protected]yup. there's a whole bunch of people who will cry 'but this slippery slope' - sorry your incest twins use too much lube, that freaky slope is your problem, not Steam's. get over yourselves. it's a private company, nothing compels it to carry your daddy twins incest shit.
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?
Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
why is valve obligated to serve up this garbage? simply not being party to it is the best answer.
still nothing explaining why valve should be serving up this garbage. just downvotes. weak.
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Oh shit, I saw that the original Leisure Suit Larry games are no longer for sale... wonder if this is why?
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Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
why is valve obligated to serve up this garbage? simply not being party to it is the best answer.
still nothing explaining why valve should be serving up this garbage. just downvotes. weak.
If you mean the games in question, well they aren't obligated and they've clearly chosen they don't care to bother anymore.
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Payment processors should not be allowed to dictate what content they allow to be bought and what not. It's not their job to police people, let me live ffs
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Only a matter of time before the same thing happens to itch.io
It started on itch, which I'm betting is one reason why so many moved to steam
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Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles
Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it
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::: spoiler Transcript
nickyflowers: It would be cool if websites let you be an adult on them. The advertisers and payment processors need everything to be Family Friendly though their definitions of family and friendly are fucked. But since they're in charge of the Internet now, no one is allowed to be an adult. TikTokers say things like "unalive" and "seggs" because they know death and sex are too adult for online. Online is for idiot babies only now because they're easier to market to.nickyflowers: Oh I'm sorry you're a trans adult? Super ban. You are super banned for life. You have upset Visa's feelings. Mastercard is throwing up in the corner. How could you do this to Google Ads?
:::Absolutely spot on. It reminds me of a comment I saw somewhere on here a few months ago where some clown used "seggs" and someone else responded to them and said they can just say sex because there aren't any algorithms here that would cause problems for them. The clown has a complete meltdown and ranted and raved in response about how they've been using "seggs" long before the internet or some wild shit like that and how dare anyone tell them that they don't have to use it here. The really fucked up thing was that he got a bunch of up votes and the person they lost their minds on was down voted to hell. I felt like I was losing my mind reading that interaction.
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Gamers on Lemmy think Steam is THEIR corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire. You get downvoted for criticizing steam for anything, or even pointing out that they’re a corporation run by a billionaire and they don’t actually care about you.
They don't care about me but they care about the service they provide. And that differs them from other corps. I also don't care about them, just of the service they provide. They provide better than most.
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On the one hand, oh noz, the incest games. Who will live without the low effort AI goon crap?
On the other hand, why do the payment companies get to dictate what sales are made? It's my fucking money, or my fucking store. It's not the job of the payment processors to determine if I'm buying illegal goods, just that the money goes from me to the store.
They are just testing their power, make you get used to it. Someday they will make pressure for some ideology. Whenever there's a morality argument in place prepare to get fucked.
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If they’re going to enforce that rule impartially, they’ll have to ban Crusader Kings III as well.
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After looking at the game list, I fully support this and urge anyone who doesn't to look at the banned games.
Everybody relax! The arbitrary moralizing exclusion of perfectly legal software was only stuff that sounds gross and unpopular.
There's no way this censorship could affect anything benign, here in this era of unquestioned queer acceptance, free expression between adults, and reliable protection of individual rights.
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Steam should accept bitcoin or some other crypto as default for all titles and only use card for "safe" titles
Steam users are mostly tech savvy enough to do it
This is actually a really good idea. The people that want these kinda games are either underage horndogs on their parents computer, or able to use crypto.
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As long as I get to keep my VR Paradise
