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Florida's plan to replace migrant workers with children falls apart

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    I can't wait to be out of Florida

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    Best decision I ever made

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      Wait what? you actually want fluoride in your drinkwater???

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      Yes because I don’t want to end up like Calgary and Juneau and I’m not a lunatic.

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      • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

        So let me get this straight. The US needs Migrants so much that we're needing to replace them with teenagers?

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        This country has, throughout its entire history, relied heavily on immigrants to make up the shortfalls in its labor force. A full stoppage of immigration is going to collapse the United States economy. Sooner than later.

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          Of course! Especially those from the party that wants crops to be picked, but doesn't want anyone who would actually do it to exist or survive in our country. And because the term "child labor" in general is unpalatable to most people. For good reason...

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          Sounds like a right nightmare ya got goin on there bud

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            On the same day this came out, University of Florida scientists announced a possible new treatment for cancer - not a type of cancer, ALL cancers. It works by stimulating the immune system to kill the tumor, and it's based on a treatment for glioblastoma that had highly successful human trials last year. Hard to believe these same two developments both came out of the nutbin of Florida.

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              The teenage babysitters I know demand a higher hourly rate than Target workers in my locale (at about $18/hr). I don't think the farmers are ready to pay that for young people who are not work hardened and can't keep their phones out of their hands for longer than 5 minutes. It is not like they will starve if they don't pick enough. After all, their parents will be there, helicoptering, handing them bottles of lifewater and snacks and uploading pics and vids on their phones on their social media accounts.

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              Children should grow up and use their energy for learning, so that they aren't doomed to become slaves for the prison industry in a future where people without solid education are not able to do more than work in the fields or clean offices.

              But i know, y'all don't need that, because all the stuff that made america great in the 50's and 60's was invented by farm workers and office cleaners... or might it be that all that made america great came from the minds of the top educated of their fields, you know, scientists - you will need new ones in the future, since the ones living right now are fleeing the US as fast as possible to escape the braindead fascism that has taken hold of the country.

              You should start begging your children to stay in school, your future depends on it.

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                jobs US citizens turn their noses up at

                Jobs that typically don't pay enough for the cost to your body, health, and mental sanity. The overlords love the illegal immigrant stuff because it lets them put the thumbscrews to the workers, both in terms of downward pressure to the wages paid out, and in terms of desperation so the people without other options are forced to work in horrible conditions for terrible pay.

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                It's telling that they blame the migrants workers for "stealing the jerbs" instead of the businesses that hire migrants workers in order to get around paying a fair wage

                Why blame a white capitalist when anyone else can take the fall?

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                • L [email protected]

                  On the same day this came out, University of Florida scientists announced a possible new treatment for cancer - not a type of cancer, ALL cancers. It works by stimulating the immune system to kill the tumor, and it's based on a treatment for glioblastoma that had highly successful human trials last year. Hard to believe these same two developments both came out of the nutbin of Florida.

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                  You got me for a second there.

                  I thought you would make a "the onion" joke of florida plan's to send cancer patient to work the fields as a "treatment" for cancer.

                  I'm surprised (and kinda of relieved?) that your comment is actually about a new scientific discovery.

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                    Florida's what now?

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                      The teenage babysitters I know demand a higher hourly rate than Target workers in my locale (at about $18/hr). I don't think the farmers are ready to pay that for young people who are not work hardened and can't keep their phones out of their hands for longer than 5 minutes. It is not like they will starve if they don't pick enough. After all, their parents will be there, helicoptering, handing them bottles of lifewater and snacks and uploading pics and vids on their phones on their social media accounts.

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                      Congratulations. This is the most Boomer-ass comment I have ever read on Lemmy.

                      Signed,

                      A 40-Year Old Millenial.

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                      • N [email protected]

                        You got me for a second there.

                        I thought you would make a "the onion" joke of florida plan's to send cancer patient to work the fields as a "treatment" for cancer.

                        I'm surprised (and kinda of relieved?) that your comment is actually about a new scientific discovery.

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                        Oh yeah it's very exciting. In 2024 a vaccine that targeted glioblastoma, an especially nasty brain cancer with an almost zero survival rate. The vaccine mimics certain aspects of tumor cells, triggering a fast, vigorous immune response that attacks the actual tumor. Encouraged by the results, they've somehow generalized the vaccine over the past year to stimulate an immune response to cancer cells in general. Immunological therapy is totally different from chemo or radiation, and a generalized approach is vastly different from what the whole field has been doing for decades. Very promising.

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                        • cruxifux@feddit.nlC [email protected]

                          Sounds like a right nightmare ya got goin on there bud

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                          Yeah, it's not great here... Unless you're a billionaire and want to exploit people!

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                            They are framing it like plucky shirtless college boys might wanna go pick cucumbers for a weekend to make a few bucks for rootbeer floats down at the soda-fountain.

                            One of the things that infuriates me about our species broadly is how terrible people are at visualizing actual, real systems and their scope and scale.

                            If you don't know anything about the factory-farming our society requires to survive, you should probably take a short tour of the massive machine we've built and depend on so you understand the scale of the problem and why even the immigrants we have/had now aren't even enough to keep the system running. This is why aging populations are a huge problem, this is a foundational cornerstone of our whole civilization, much like medicine and vaccines, and it's being waved off like something we can just swap out demographics for funsies and to give bro's trying to afford their new baseball mitts and textbooks, all good, right??

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                            I mean, they could work a summer picking produce and have enough money to buy a house, at least that's what the old man down the street told me. And he owns a house, so I bet he would know.

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                              So let me get this straight. The US needs Migrants so much that we're needing to replace them with teenagers?

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                              Farms have historically used their children as free labor back when they were mostly family owned. That's why most schools here have a three month summer break. Now they want the factory farms to have that same perk, just with other people's children.

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                                Not surprising. They didn't plan ahead whatsoever and thought "it'll all work out" as if Conservative promises held more weight than the hot air required to speak them.

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                                Well, the reason it didn't work out now is obviously the Democrats somehow.

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                                • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                                  So let me get this straight. The US needs Migrants so much that we're needing to replace them with teenagers?

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                                  Now that you're saying. Really expected them to use actual 9 year old children for this. But even so, it doesn't look like a bright future if they're forcing adolescents and young adults into slavery.

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                                    On the same day this came out, University of Florida scientists announced a possible new treatment for cancer - not a type of cancer, ALL cancers. It works by stimulating the immune system to kill the tumor, and it's based on a treatment for glioblastoma that had highly successful human trials last year. Hard to believe these same two developments both came out of the nutbin of Florida.

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                                    Here's an article for those who want to know more.

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                                      Brand new sentence???!!!

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                                      • J [email protected]

                                        That's a fair critique, I made it sound more like US citizens are snobby for rejecting underpaid, dangerous jobs when in reality the US's base infrastructure still entirely relies on a form of slave labor to persist. I should've been more nuanced with my description.

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                                        It's not even a critique, really. We're all fed up, angry, and looking to throw around punches at everything. My comments are just as much about venting and getting mad.

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                                          It's telling that they blame the migrants workers for "stealing the jerbs" instead of the businesses that hire migrants workers in order to get around paying a fair wage

                                          Why blame a white capitalist when anyone else can take the fall?

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                                          Florida briefly tried to enforce it on this basis and immediately had a labor crisis so afaik they stopped.

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