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Falsehoods programmers believe about languages

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  • B [email protected]

    "All languages (that use the Latin alphabet) have the same alphabetical sorting order."
    oh this one is very unexpected to me. Does someone know an example? I'm curious

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    In German Ä comes after A, in Swedish Ä comes after Z

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      Middelfart? 😄

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      The great city of Middelfart 😉 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middelfart

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      • F [email protected]

        Geolocation is an accurate way to predict the user’s language.

        This makes me so angry. It really really really really really does.

        Despite setting everything to English I still get my receipts in French. And all because my IP is CG-NAT to the capital which is marked as french speaking.

        What is so hard about letting me decide. The absolute fucking arrogance thinking you as a company know better than me in which language I would like to be served.

        Eat a dick Microsoft.

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        For real. I've seen the fingerprinting info, I know your website can see what language I've set, so display your website in that language!

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        • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

          Not sure about that one but the following one:

          In each language, the words for yes and no never change, regardless of which question they are answering.

          This is true in Danish actually. Example:

          Kan du lide is? (Do you like ice cream?)
          Ja
          Kan du ikke lide is? (Do you not like ice cream?)
          Jo

          So in Danish we have "ja" which means "yes" but "jo" is used instead when answering a negative question, so as to confirm what the negative question asked. This is kind of annoying in English cause if you ask "Do you not like ice cream?" then if you say "yes" does that mean "yes I like ice cream" or does it mean "yes I do not like ice cream"? That's what "jo" disambiguates.

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          English used to have this! Yea/nay for positive, and yes/no for negative I believe. The former fell out of common use.

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          • rimu@piefed.socialR [email protected]

            I can’t believe nobody has done this list yet. I mean, there is one about names, one about time and many others on other topics, but not one about languages yet (except one honorable mention that comes close). So, here’s my attempt to list all the misconceptions and prejudices I’ve come across in the course of my long and illustrious career in software localisation and language technology. Enjoy – and send me your own ones!

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            "Every country has exactly one “national” language." - Switzerland meanwhile lol

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            • T [email protected]

              Arabic doesn't have a word for "yes".

              (Yes) in Arabic is نعم pronounced as (Na'am) or ( Na ع m) & this is the word which most people use in all Arab countries . The Arabic dialect word for (Yes) is ايوة or ايوا pronounced as (Aywa)and also used by all Arabs.

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              Do you know the etymology of these words? My understanding is that they aren't exactly "Yes" but more "As you say" or something similar. But I am no arabicist.

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                Middelfart? 😄

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                It's not too smelly, but it's not completely benign either.

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                • 30p87@feddit.org3 [email protected]

                  And I always want the english version instead of the german version, despite me being german. Literally only google fucks that up. Every other site, even the small local german Uni website or the canteens meal site, respects my browsers setting. Google does not, and serves me german.

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                  google.com/ncr

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                  • C [email protected]

                    Can they answer “not no”?

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                    I don’t know any Vietnamese, but I suspect it would be as awkward of an answer as “not no” in English.

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                      I don’t know any Vietnamese, but I suspect it would be as awkward of an answer as “not no” in English.

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                      I’m sure it would. But in many languages a double negative just reinforces the negative. Hence the question.

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