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My skill prevents bugs, unlike your fancy compiler, peasant.

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  • M [email protected]

    Lol build something with serde and you'll be hooked for life

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    Or a CLI with clap.

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    • danhab99@programming.devD [email protected]

      "Rust's compiler prevents common bugs" So does skill. No offense to you, but, this trope is getting so tiresome. If you like the language then go ahead and use it. What is it with the rust crowd that they have to come acrosslike people trying to convert your religion at your front door?

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      Everyone makes mistakes, no matter the level of skill

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      • danhab99@programming.devD [email protected]

        "Rust's compiler prevents common bugs" So does skill. No offense to you, but, this trope is getting so tiresome. If you like the language then go ahead and use it. What is it with the rust crowd that they have to come acrosslike people trying to convert your religion at your front door?

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        While I do totally see the advantages of rust and agree skill is not a solution given people make mistakes...I do agree a lot of the very vocal rust advocates do act almost religious and it is an annoying turn off.

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        • scoopta@programming.devS [email protected]

          While I do totally see the advantages of rust and agree skill is not a solution given people make mistakes...I do agree a lot of the very vocal rust advocates do act almost religious and it is an annoying turn off.

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          We had the Java guys in year 2000, at least Rust seems to be a decent language.

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          • danhab99@programming.devD [email protected]

            "Rust's compiler prevents common bugs" So does skill. No offense to you, but, this trope is getting so tiresome. If you like the language then go ahead and use it. What is it with the rust crowd that they have to come acrosslike people trying to convert your religion at your front door?

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            The really annoying part is all the people saying that you shouldn't like Rust because actually it's not magically bug free. Yeah, no shit. No one who touched Rust claims it lets you write bug free code. People like Rust because it's modern, fast, has great tooling, great documentation and really nice features like Traits and Algebraic data types. Memory and thread safety is just a bonus.

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            • O [email protected]

              I love this argument because it means this dude is the only skilled C developer on the planet. Chromium devs are just chumps that should be replaced by this uncommon God.

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              If we measure only by the amount of mistakes, there would be much more skilled C developers. Take my pristine skills for example, I've made zero mistakes writing all of my 3 lines of C code over years and years, zero mistakes

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              • L [email protected]

                10 months, 2 weeks, 6 days and 12 hours since I was saved and accepted the one true language (not)

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                My condolences on not being saved and accepted, I hope the future still holds good things for you 🙏

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                • danhab99@programming.devD [email protected]

                  "Rust's compiler prevents common bugs" So does skill. No offense to you, but, this trope is getting so tiresome. If you like the language then go ahead and use it. What is it with the rust crowd that they have to come acrosslike people trying to convert your religion at your front door?

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                  The language/compiler restricting some bad practices makes safer code with less skill. Btw, there's also Safe C++

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                  • b_tr3e@feddit.orgB [email protected]

                    The problem with these followers of rust is that they're heathens, disbelievers and worshippers of the devil. Just like all of you heretics. There is just one programming language for the true believer and it is FORTRAN. The pure and true FORTRAN, that is, which is punched into cards of virgin paper, not the heresy created by the blasphemy of 99.

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                    I'm just trying to imagine installing something like modern Microsoft Office from punch cards.
                    Getting the heavy bankers box from the closet. Spending a few hours feeding cards into the reader.
                    Going on a profanity laced tirade because some idiot put them away out of order. It was probably definitely me.

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                    • E [email protected]

                      The really annoying part is all the people saying that you shouldn't like Rust because actually it's not magically bug free. Yeah, no shit. No one who touched Rust claims it lets you write bug free code. People like Rust because it's modern, fast, has great tooling, great documentation and really nice features like Traits and Algebraic data types. Memory and thread safety is just a bonus.

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                      Ammm actually... ☝️🤓
                      most Rust evengalists claim that Rust prevents you from writing bugs

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                        Ammm actually... ☝️🤓
                        most Rust evengalists claim that Rust prevents you from writing bugs

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                        It's hard to argue with that statement. Like, literally, I have no idea who rust evangelists are, where to look for them and how to find out what "most" of them think about anything.

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                        • danhab99@programming.devD [email protected]

                          "Rust's compiler prevents common bugs" So does skill. No offense to you, but, this trope is getting so tiresome. If you like the language then go ahead and use it. What is it with the rust crowd that they have to come acrosslike people trying to convert your religion at your front door?

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                          Skill issue takes are dumb as fuck. It's just republican personal responsibility takes using different language.

                          Intelligent people focus on producing systemically better outcomes.

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                          • I [email protected]

                            It’s like going to city hall and complaining your tax dollars are being spent on guardrails along the road that you haven’t personally ever driven into.

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                            Which, for the record, people fully actually do.

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                            • scoopta@programming.devS [email protected]

                              While I do totally see the advantages of rust and agree skill is not a solution given people make mistakes...I do agree a lot of the very vocal rust advocates do act almost religious and it is an annoying turn off.

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                              Do you have time to talk about our lord Rust? Did you know it died for our bugs so we don't have to debug them at run time?

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                              • danhab99@programming.devD [email protected]

                                "Rust's compiler prevents common bugs" So does skill. No offense to you, but, this trope is getting so tiresome. If you like the language then go ahead and use it. What is it with the rust crowd that they have to come acrosslike people trying to convert your religion at your front door?

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                                I mean... they do kinda have a point on the last part. I'm no programmer or coder. I can't code for shit. I don't know a lot about development. And even I have the feeling that Rust people, they're kinda like NixOS people a while back, they never shut the fuck up about it. :3

                                They're definitely enthusiastic, I'll give them that. But so many projects are sold solely on the fact that they are made with Rust, even though it means absolutely nothing to most users.

                                I remember when System76 announced that they were making a new desktop environment and the only thing they basically said about it back then was that it was made with Rust and it felt like my corner of the internet lost their mind about it like they had announced the second coming of Christ or something.

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                                • C [email protected]

                                  Ammm actually... ☝️🤓
                                  most Rust evengalists claim that Rust prevents you from writing bugs

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                                  Any type safe language will help you prevent a wide range of bugs that non safe languages need tons of tests to detect.

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                                  • E [email protected]

                                    It's hard to argue with that statement. Like, literally, I have no idea who rust evangelists are, where to look for them and how to find out what "most" of them think about anything.

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                                    Yep - I don't really know who these evangelists are either. I have read about "fearless concurrency," which seems pretty spot-on.

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                                    • danhab99@programming.devD [email protected]

                                      "Rust's compiler prevents common bugs" So does skill. No offense to you, but, this trope is getting so tiresome. If you like the language then go ahead and use it. What is it with the rust crowd that they have to come acrosslike people trying to convert your religion at your front door?

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                                      I'd guess it's Rust fan's genuine belief that they have something revolutionary.

                                      “Rust’s compiler prevents common bugs” So does skill. No offense to you, but, this trope is getting so tiresome. If you like the language then go ahead and use it.

                                      If you're that much of a galaxybrain, you should be writing everything directly in opcodes. In reality, nobody is, and we invented languages to help us perform an activity the human brain is very poorly suited to.

                                      This attitude also means that OP stares at their own obvious bugs on a screen all day and then decides they're great, which is level of detachment from reality frightening to me.

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                                      • R [email protected]

                                        Any type safe language will help you prevent a wide range of bugs that non safe languages need tons of tests to detect.

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                                        We're talking about memory safety here, though.

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                                        • C [email protected]

                                          We're talking about memory safety here, though.

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                                          Same argument though, just a different value for the topic.

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