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How to upgrade to Windows 11 with as much privacy, freedom and efficiency as possible

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  • adespoton@lemmy.caA [email protected]

    That’s the point. Windows 11 cannot be made to be a private OS. So you have to adjust your privacy model instead if you want to use it.

    boredsquirrel@slrpnk.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #36

    Ok so there is no point?

    What you said is mentioned in the post multiple times. Poorly, node.js garbage like Adobe creative garbage blocks Linux for no reason, so Windows is needed.

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      1. Go to linuxmint.com
      2. Download
      3. Write to usb with rufus
      4. Reboot using the usb
      5. Install
      6. Done
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      #37

      I know you think you’re being clever. But what you really are is arrogant. Telling someone the answer to their problem is to do as you do, instead of helping them with their issue.

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      • deadcatbounce@reddthat.comD [email protected]

        Hahaha! Please someone. Help.

        He's exactly a week early.

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        #38

        To be fair, a bunch of old scientific closed sourced applications run only on WinXP or 7. Maybe it's aimed at those people. But I don't know any that require 10 or 11 that don't have alternatives...

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        • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.netB [email protected]

          True. Windows 10 is atrocious. I have to say, a debloated Win11 feels almost too good.

          So, lets focus on making Linux distros shiny and easy to use!

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          #39

          That is the point, but Linux, as said above isn't for everyone an option.

          Comments in the web:

          **Linux faces several key challenges that limit its broader adoption and effectiveness:
          **

          1. Software Compatibility
            Major commercial applications like Adobe Creative Suite and industry-standard business software often don't run natively on Linux[^1]. While alternatives exist, they frequently lack feature parity or full compatibility with industry file formats.

          2. Hardware Support Complexity
            Device drivers and hardware compatibility remain inconsistent. According to ZDNET, even basic tasks like printer setup can require manual configuration[^3]. Multiple competing package formats (deb, rpm, flatpak, snap) create confusion for software installation[^13].

          3. Fragmented Development Focus
            The Linux ecosystem suffers from too many competing distributions and desktop environments. As MIT researcher Jonathan Birge notes, "It's downright laughable that an OS with single digit market share would further dilute its market share by having two competing desktops"[^21].

          4. Learning Curve
            Despite improvements in user-friendly distributions like Ubuntu, Linux still requires more technical knowledge than Windows or macOS for many tasks[^1]. The command line remains necessary for certain operations, intimidating new users.

          *(With this point I am not in total agreement, Windows with its plug & play and intuitive UI only SEEMS more simple, but to remove the bad habits, bloatware, telemetrias and other crap, are required a more advanced user to get it, entering quickly into Comanche territory. I think that Windows need a more advanced user as modern Linux distros)
          *
          5. Support Structure
          Unlike commercial operating systems, Linux lacks centralized support. Users must rely on community forums and documentation that can be overwhelming for beginners[^13]. Enterprise-level support often requires expensive consulting contracts.

          1. Market Share Impact
            With desktop market share around 3%, many software vendors can't justify developing and maintaining Linux versions of their applications[^21]. This creates a negative feedback loop - fewer applications lead to fewer users, which leads to less software development.

          [^1]: 7 Reasons Why Linux Isn't Dominating the Desktop OS Market - MUO

          [^3]: Why don't more people use desktop Linux? I have a theory you might not like - ZDNET

          [^13]: What Are the Disadvantages of the Linux OS (Operating System)?

          [^21]: Why Linux is failing on the desktop | Jonathan Birge

          Summary: the best OS is allways the one which best fits the individual needs, a perfect os for everyone don't exist. Every OS has its drawbacks, certainly Windows the most, but at least it's possible to fix.

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          • V [email protected]

            If you don't think the modern Linux distro are shiny and easy to use, how long has it been since you tried? There are plenty of feature complete distros that are shiny and modern and comfortable to start using as a lifelong windows user

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            I use PC before MS DOS times and I also used several Linux distros in the past, last Kubuntu and Mint, always in dual boot. But I never saw big advantages above a gutted Windows, but problems with a lot of apps which I needed.
            Currently I'm on a heavy cleaned W11 which works fast, stable and exactly how I want 100%, why because of this I have to change it, installing another OS? There are no practical reasons for it.

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              To be fair, a bunch of old scientific closed sourced applications run only on WinXP or 7. Maybe it's aimed at those people. But I don't know any that require 10 or 11 that don't have alternatives...

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              Then they need a VM with Win7, not to install that piece of parasitic garbage as a host OS.

              Remind me of the community name again, please?

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              • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.netB [email protected]

                Mind to tell me what is missing then? NextDNS or Portmaster could be used, but they add more complexity. And as said, Windows should not be considered a safe OS so hardening it is kinda useless

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                #42

                Every OS nowadays need a good DNS server and better DNScrypt above. An app to control the traffic, like Portmaster or Pi-Hole is also recommended, irrelevant in which OS. Most activity of everyone is online and there is important to protect the privacy, because there is the biggest privacy hole, not in the OS but PEBCAC

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                • deadcatbounce@reddthat.comD [email protected]

                  Then they need a VM with Win7, not to install that piece of parasitic garbage as a host OS.

                  Remind me of the community name again, please?

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                  #43

                  I don't disagree lol

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                    #44

                    The best solution for privacy is to not use windows, seems like a good guide but even with all these modifications I would throw the computer in the dumpster and set it on fire before using it in any privacy sensitive or mission critical applications.

                    Linux runs fine these days, and with NTSync in the kernel and the work done on WINE and proton there really isn't a need to use an operating system that abuses you and sells your data for profit.

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                      I don't disagree lol

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                      Phew. You got me! Really had me going!

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                      • I [email protected]

                        I know you think you’re being clever. But what you really are is arrogant. Telling someone the answer to their problem is to do as you do, instead of helping them with their issue.

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                        I refuse to help people with installing any versions of windows out of ethical reasons, just like some tattooist refuse to tattoo people in the face or give them similarly stupid tattoos.

                        Yes, I'm arrogant enough to think I know better than those who haven't considered the issue at all.

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                        • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.netB [email protected]

                          This. Is. About. People. Needing. Windows. Only. Software.

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                          I'd ask them to consider their dependence on windows only apps. If they want help with installing linux I'm happy to help, but I'm not an enabler there to help perpetuate their negative dependence.

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                          • smee@poeng.linkS [email protected]

                            I'd ask them to consider their dependence on windows only apps. If they want help with installing linux I'm happy to help, but I'm not an enabler there to help perpetuate their negative dependence.

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                            You can't do this if your job depends on using such software. And there is a ton

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                              The best solution for privacy is to not use windows, seems like a good guide but even with all these modifications I would throw the computer in the dumpster and set it on fire before using it in any privacy sensitive or mission critical applications.

                              Linux runs fine these days, and with NTSync in the kernel and the work done on WINE and proton there really isn't a need to use an operating system that abuses you and sells your data for profit.

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                              This is for people needing MSOffice, Adobe, AutoCAD and whatelse. This does not run in WINE, on purpose.

                              Just stop. Your comment does not help anyone.

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                              • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.netB [email protected]

                                This is for people needing MSOffice, Adobe, AutoCAD and whatelse. This does not run in WINE, on purpose.

                                Just stop. Your comment does not help anyone.

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                                Oh, works on my machine. Oh well.

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                                • boredsquirrel@slrpnk.netB [email protected]

                                  You can't do this if your job depends on using such software. And there is a ton

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                                  Sure, many jobs require people to use unethical, but legal tools and methods. I used to work somewhere like that - and what ever OS they had installed was irrelevant because it was their equipment, their systems and I didn't use work stuff for personal things.

                                  But really, are you describing someone dependent on a job or someone dependent on certain windows-exclusive applications? Are they forced to use their personal equipment for work stuff?

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                                  • smee@poeng.linkS [email protected]

                                    I refuse to help people with installing any versions of windows out of ethical reasons, just like some tattooist refuse to tattoo people in the face or give them similarly stupid tattoos.

                                    Yes, I'm arrogant enough to think I know better than those who haven't considered the issue at all.

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                                    It’s fine to refuse to help, but offering your unsolicited opinion on windows instead of helping is just rude.

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                                    • I [email protected]

                                      It’s fine to refuse to help, but offering your unsolicited opinion on windows instead of helping is just rude.

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                                      I think it's a rather human thing to do, explaining oneself when refusing to lend a hand. I also think warning friends, family and those I care for about what I consider dangerous to be quite nice.

                                      I suppose we just have to agree to disagree about how we interact and care for our fellow humans.

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