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Google is on the Wrong Side of History.

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  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

    They could market shaving to women to increase razor blade sales, because now women employees would have money to spend.

    That makes zero sense. Paying people so they can spend a tiny fraction of it back to your company? Why not just keep the money in the first place?

    No, they hire them because they've run the math and realized it costs less to hire them than that it costs them in sales due to public perception.

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    You might need to pause and think a bit more. Corporations are competing for money. There isn’t just one big pile of money somewhere.

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      Inevitably, all hierarchical organizations end up on the wrong side of history.

      In hierarchies, people compete for position.

      People with principles, morals, integrity and/or empathy will have choices that they simply will not make.

      People without those things are not constrained. They can and will make whatever choices might benefit them, with no regard for the consequences to others.

      So all other things being more or less equal, psychopaths actually have a competitive advantage in hierarchies, and hierarchies end up effectively rewarding and thus selecting for psychopathy.

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        We knew this as soon as they got rid of the “Don’t be evil” slogan

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        ☞ We knew this as soon as they got the “Don’t be evil” slogan

        if you need to remind yourself not to be evil, that's already a bad start.

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          Inevitably, all hierarchical organizations end up on the wrong side of history.

          In hierarchies, people compete for position.

          People with principles, morals, integrity and/or empathy will have choices that they simply will not make.

          People without those things are not constrained. They can and will make whatever choices might benefit them, with no regard for the consequences to others.

          So all other things being more or less equal, psychopaths actually have a competitive advantage in hierarchies, and hierarchies end up effectively rewarding and thus selecting for psychopathy.

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          And if there is one uniting principle in conservatism, the singular reason why religious dirt-poor common-clay-of-the-West support billionaires, is that they all deeply believe in hierarchies.

          Why do they go after trans-women but not trans-men? Because men are naturally higher in the hierarchy than women, thus wanting to exist in male spaces (but not actually crossing into them) is seen as the proper order, whereas wanting to exist in female spaces (read: lowering yourself in the hierarchy) is seen as unnatural.

          Why do they fellate the rich? Because the wealthy are better people, which is tautologically why they're rich.

          Why are they racist? Because white people are better than not-white people, natch.

          Why do they hate atheists? Because the very concept of religion implicitly enforces hierarchy. Sectarian disputes are just an offshoot of this.

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            Fuck them

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              Corporations just reflect the values of their owners. There are companies that emphasize things other than revenue, but as soon as a company goes public and becomes controlled by Wall Street, profit becomes their sole motivation

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              This is why the stock market was, fundamentally, a trojan horse. It was created so capitalism could intertwine the peoples wealth and retirement funds to the success of the wealth of the oligarchy, making the entire market too big to fail.

              Now the entire system is designed to prevent damage to companies, no matter how moral, unethical, or criminal. The success of corporations IS treated as equal to "national security".

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                This seems relevant here…

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                  It's a capitalist corporation that sold its soul to the highest bidder. Of course it's evil. It's based on greed and exploitation.

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                  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                    GO BACK TO SENDING PIECES OF PAPER IN THE MAILBOX YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT /s

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                    I ALREADY DO GOD DAMMIT! (Seriously I have pen pals. I write letters every year. I'm actually late and need to write them!)

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                      And if there is one uniting principle in conservatism, the singular reason why religious dirt-poor common-clay-of-the-West support billionaires, is that they all deeply believe in hierarchies.

                      Why do they go after trans-women but not trans-men? Because men are naturally higher in the hierarchy than women, thus wanting to exist in male spaces (but not actually crossing into them) is seen as the proper order, whereas wanting to exist in female spaces (read: lowering yourself in the hierarchy) is seen as unnatural.

                      Why do they fellate the rich? Because the wealthy are better people, which is tautologically why they're rich.

                      Why are they racist? Because white people are better than not-white people, natch.

                      Why do they hate atheists? Because the very concept of religion implicitly enforces hierarchy. Sectarian disputes are just an offshoot of this.

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                      Progressives are much the same way, but with different hierarchies. Progressives seem to love big government hierarchies which a strong executive branch enforcing a bunch of regulations.

                      That's what you get from a two party system, you get two groups with a fetish for different types of hierarchies.

                      Reject hierarchy and push for local rule, it's what we in the box like to call liberty.

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                        I ALREADY DO GOD DAMMIT! (Seriously I have pen pals. I write letters every year. I'm actually late and need to write them!)

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                        Get on it.

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                          That's why I just upgraded my subscription to Proton. (YES I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE DRAMA WITH THEIR CEO!!! AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT SELLING AI SERVICES TO MILITARY CONTRACTORS, DOING MASS SURVEILLANCE OR SELLING MY FUCKING DATA!)

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                          I switched to Tuta for email and calendar and other services for other products. I try to avoid putting too many eggs in a given basket.

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                            Capitalism is amoral

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                            Unfortunately alternatives aren't any better...

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                              No ethical consumption under capitalism, yep.

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                              Leave such takes for .ml, please.

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                                Unfortunately alternatives aren't any better...

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                                Your right.

                                Change is difficult so we should just give up.

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                                  Progressives are much the same way, but with different hierarchies. Progressives seem to love big government hierarchies which a strong executive branch enforcing a bunch of regulations.

                                  That's what you get from a two party system, you get two groups with a fetish for different types of hierarchies.

                                  Reject hierarchy and push for local rule, it's what we in the box like to call liberty.

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                                  You're conflating two unrelated things to make some weird anti-government point.

                                  Conservatives believe that hierarchical structures are the natural order of things. That is, things on top of the hierarchy deserve to be there, because otherwise they'd be at the bottom. Conservatism as a political philosophy requires the belief that some people are just better than others.

                                  A belief that a strong government is required to enforce equality in the population is nothing like that.

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                                    Progressives are much the same way, but with different hierarchies. Progressives seem to love big government hierarchies which a strong executive branch enforcing a bunch of regulations.

                                    That's what you get from a two party system, you get two groups with a fetish for different types of hierarchies.

                                    Reject hierarchy and push for local rule, it's what we in the box like to call liberty.

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                                    How in the hell is wanting strong regulations the same thing as believing in racial suppremacy?

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                                      It's a capitalist corporation that sold its soul to the highest bidder. Of course it's evil. It's based on greed and exploitation.

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                                      Billionaire bad?? How could this be!!? I was told whenever two parties entered into a voluntary agreement it meant both of them mutually improved their situation and that if you got billions out of it, it meant by definition that you did a lot of good!

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                                        Billionaire bad?? How could this be!!? I was told whenever two parties entered into a voluntary agreement it meant both of them mutually improved their situation and that if you got billions out of it, it meant by definition that you did a lot of good!

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                                        Here's a gun to your head, now, it would be beneficial to you to hand over your wallet m'kay?

                                        No bullet in your brain, more cash in my hand, both parties benefit! See how that works?

                                        Oh, you have a lump growing in your thyroid, mmmm.... that is bad. We can cut that out for you and most people we do that to live a lot longer, but first we need you to mortgage your home and give us the proceeds. See how that works?

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                                          There are some offsetting factors that also prevent the "best and brightest" from rising to power: https://dealbreaker.com/2007/10/icahn-explains-why-are-there-so-many-idiots-running-shit

                                          He moves up the corporate ladder, without a single original idea that might make his boss feel threatened by his potential.

                                          Eventually, he gets to be the #2 guy at the company. He's a little dumber than the C.E.O., but the board likes him, so he eventually gets to be C.E.O.

                                          Of course, he assigns a #2 who is a little dumber than he is. "And eventually, we're going to have all morons running our companies," Icahn concluded. "We might not be that far off from that right now."

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