systemd has been a complete, utter, unmitigated success
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There is no authority delegating responsibilities of writing tutorials for Linux. It is the responsibility of nobody and everybody. If you can't find one for your problem, write it yourself when you have figured it out.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Sure, but I can't single-handedly create an entire knowledge base on doing everything with X, so it's a real and big limitation.
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I'd say the main bad part of systemd is how it's used and now expected everywhere.
If you search for some Linux guides or install something complicated or whatnot, they always expect you to have systemd. Otherwise, you're on your own figuring how things work on your system.
This shouldn't really happen. Otherwise, yes, it's great, it integrates neatly, and is least pain to use.
In my opnion, systemd is like core-utils at this point.
It's so integrated into most things and the default so many places, that most guides assume you have it.
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Sure, but I can't single-handedly create an entire knowledge base on doing everything with X, so it's a real and big limitation.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]If you think so and that this is important, maybe you could be the one that makes it happen. Start a project and gather like-minded people. That is how Linux, FOSS and community driven efforts operate. It's useless to complain that nobody else makes the effort if you have the capabilities but can't be arsed making an attempt yourself.
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I'm over here still using OpenRC. Mostly because I want to. Some servers I run have systemd on them. systemd is generally nice. OpenRC has finally gained the ability to run user services, which is also very nice.
dinit also has the ability to run user services, FWIW.
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I hated it and still do because for a period of years every weird, difficult to find issue on a bunch of servers was caused by systemd. It may be fine now, but I switched to Devuan and have had incredible stability. Poettering's response to security issues was also terrible and honestly the dude seems like a real piece of shit.
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Unrelated but how do people feel about the ai images when used for something like this.
The font is very telling for being DallE
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Unrelated but how do people feel about the ai images when used for something like this.
The font is very telling for being DallE
I strong hate these imagines with a piss tint. I can't stand them. And the text has these tiny AI-flavoured imperfections too.
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I strong hate these imagines with a piss tint. I can't stand them. And the text has these tiny AI-flavoured imperfections too.
The 'recreated' photorealistic thumbnails on youtube are even worse, IMHO -- especially when they involve subtly warped faces of familiar people.
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I hated it and still do because for a period of years every weird, difficult to find issue on a bunch of servers was caused by systemd. It may be fine now, but I switched to Devuan and have had incredible stability. Poettering's response to security issues was also terrible and honestly the dude seems like a real piece of shit.
Systemd on a server is disaster.
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Systemd on a server is disaster.
Excuse me but wtf? How many machines do you manage?
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Excuse me but wtf? How many machines do you manage?
Right now five servers. Three with Alpine Linux and two FreeBSD servers.
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Right now five servers. Three with Alpine Linux and two FreeBSD servers.
Ok I see. Without any intention to sound offensive, 5 servers is not enough to really see the pro cons of either init system.
People handling 50 times those numbers encounter issues where it starts to matter, and those people tend to claim that, while it ain't perfect, it is a lot better than any alternative -
Ok I see. Without any intention to sound offensive, 5 servers is not enough to really see the pro cons of either init system.
People handling 50 times those numbers encounter issues where it starts to matter, and those people tend to claim that, while it ain't perfect, it is a lot better than any alternativeYou see, I scaled down a little in recent years because that is not my primary job any more. But, I am working as an admin from 1998. so my word should have some weight, right?
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You see, I scaled down a little in recent years because that is not my primary job any more. But, I am working as an admin from 1998. so my word should have some weight, right?
All words from any it admin have weight, that is not what I meant.
Its just that init scripts and weird boot requirements are really crap to manage at scale and my job, like many others became a lot easier with systemd, that is why almost everyone uses it now. In my experience those that complain either never encountered these issues because they never scaled enough and like to use what they were used to, or prefer to write a script over a config file and make this a religious issue for some reason.
