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  • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

    It looked pretty good for the time. Couldnt do real time 3D rendering and also be fast (StarFox was truly 3D; but iirc also ran at like 15fps and had to use a special chip in the cart to do that), so they compromised with sprites made from pre-rendered 3D models.

    It also had great level design and memorable music.

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    You could start Starfox without the extra chip if you did some trick with the cartridge, but there were big black bits on the screen or something? It sorta worked but it sucked. I can't remember any more details than that.

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      has Diddy

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      Well at the time he was going by Puff Daddy

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        I'd say those were solid games, but not great.

        Rare games just had this style that made everything feel a little off.

        Like eating a Subway sandwich. The ham doesn't just taste like ham; it tastes like ham + Subway. The turkey tastes like turkey + Subway. Banjo-Kazooie was the worst about this. It just had so much of this extra "Rare" flavor on top of it.

        And like, you don't notice it at first until you try the breakfast sandwich, and when that tastes like egg + Subway, you can't eat there anymore because that's all you can taste.

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        ... that "style" is what makes modern games suck. They lack that authenticity. Rare's games had personality.

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          I played Donkey Kong Country on a Gameboy Colour (I had a SNES but never got the SNES version) and I thought it was one of the best games ever ๐Ÿ˜ญ still remember tryin to get past that mine cart level lol

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          • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

            Sonic the Hegehog wasn't fun. Good art direction, great music; terrible level design that very often countered the premise of "going fast." I never found them enjoyable and find it crazy how big the series is, even though most games in the franchise are said to be garbage even by Sonic fans.

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            For kids with very strict religious parents, sonic is the coolest media they are allowed to consume. Anything cooler than sonic would be satanic.

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              For kids with very strict religious parents, sonic is the coolest media they are allowed to consume. Anything cooler than sonic would be satanic.

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              Hmmm... ๐Ÿค”

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                I mentioned Goldeneye.

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                Yeeeeeaaaaaauuuhhhhhh but then you paired it with Diddy Kong Racing. Replace that with Perfect Dark and then you're valid.

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                  Yeeeeeaaaaaauuuhhhhhh but then you paired it with Diddy Kong Racing. Replace that with Perfect Dark and then you're valid.

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                  Diddy Kong Racing is a masterpiece. I don't think you played it all the way through.

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                    ... that "style" is what makes modern games suck. They lack that authenticity. Rare's games had personality.

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                    Modern games don't suck. That's a silly thing to say.

                    Rare's N64 platformers especially wouldn't hold up today.

                    Go play DK64 today and tell me it's better than a modern game. But you have to play it all the way through, all the bullshit repetitive item collection, going through the same rooms with every character to get every boring banana.

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                      In that era you had CRTs or Rear Projection TVs.

                      Rear Projection was bigger (55" 4:3) but often times was susceptible to burn-in and had a worse quality picture compared to a CRT

                      Before LCDs it was plasma which until the the late 2000s had more technical advantages over LCD
                      Refresh rate, contrast. LCDs couldn't really match them until the 2010s
                      (I never had a plasma display though so I don't fully understand plasma)

                      DLP was a thing and could get up to and over 80" while maintaining quality but DLP could not be wall mounted as they were quite big like rear projection screens

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                      Rear projections are 3 crts in a trench coat.

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                        Bad viewing angles, poor contrast ratios, poor refresh rate and poor display speed.

                        I was not saying that they were non existent or unreliable. The technology was just poor at that time and beaten by Plasma displays in those areas

                        Plasma displays had 2 problems though (besides cost) They were heavier than LCDs and their backlights would dim over time.

                        Edit: I was reading on wikipedia... they work like those plasma globes!

                        Plasma displays were affected by screen burn-in where as LCDs typically are not.

                        Also it seems like on Contrast ratio plasma still is not beaten by LCD displays

                        Though there are a lot of LED backlight technologies that help. Such as being able to only run a portion of the backlight for a given area.

                        For a while there were also Dual Layer LCD panels. They would effectively use one layer of LCD to control color and another to try to control brightness / prevent light bleed through. I think those are obsolete for the most part now.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_display

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                        Plasma displays had 2 problems though (besides cost) They were heavier than LCDs and their backlights would dim over time

                        Plasmas dont have backlights, they worked similar to oled.

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                          It wasn't that bad, but it was absolutely overrated.
                          Good soundtrack though.

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                            Even 4chan can't deny how good the soundtrack is

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                              Plasma displays had 2 problems though (besides cost) They were heavier than LCDs and their backlights would dim over time

                              Plasmas dont have backlights, they worked similar to oled.

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                              You are correct. They were susceptible to burn in and dimming over time but did not have a back light.

                              I never owned a plasma display because they were too expensive. CRT until 08 when we upgraded to a Vizio LCD for me

                              I should've corrected that after my wikipedia dive

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                                Hmmm... ๐Ÿค”

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                                Incubus Summoned!

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                                  Diddy Kong Racing is a masterpiece. I don't think you played it all the way through.

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                                  I didn't play it, watched a friend at his house play. Just wasn't my thing. Felt too close to SNES Mario Kart, which was way better.

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                                    I won't deny the technical achievement that this game was for Nintendo, and the coup it was for Rare (at the time). And i would never take pot-shots at anyone's joy of nostalgia around this game: Not all of my own favorite picks are winners. But I absolutely agree with this greentext. I recall getting this game new and just feeling underwhelmed by it.

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                                      IMO, that's all a part of the Rare+Nintendo hype at the time. Killer Instinct was in the same campaign for these pre-rendered 3D graphics as the wave of the future. Don't forget, they had to go toe-to-toe with Sony's Playstationat that time, so bringing anything that looked like real 3D on a SNES was kind of a big deal.

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                                        I didn't play it, watched a friend at his house play. Just wasn't my thing. Felt too close to SNES Mario Kart, which was way better.

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                                        I'd take Diddy Kong over any version of Mario Kart, any day. It's less random, with more streamlined items and tighter mechanics.

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                                          I'd take Diddy Kong over any version of Mario Kart, any day. It's less random, with more streamlined items and tighter mechanics.

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                                          long sigh look. SNES Mario Kart kicks Diddy Kong on its worst day. Especially in the multiplayer battle arenas. It's just me spitting hard fax.

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