Steam is cracking down on porn games, to keep Payment Processors happy.
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After looking at the game list, I fully support this and urge anyone who doesn't to look at the banned games.
It doesn't matter what was banned. It could be the most heinous shit imaginable and payment processors dictating what is allowed to exist would still be horrible.
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Stop using children as a stand-in for your discomfort. That is so overdone.
I'm sure you have your limit too.
Otherwise you're lying to yourself. I think children not getting exposed for cartoon porn is a pretty good stop. Especially when the perpetrators seem to think it's harmless.
Stop pretending that furries is about anything other than fantasy of fucking your favorite cartoon please.
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Why shouldn't the payment processors get a say in the payments they process? Illegal or not, why should they be forced to process payments that facilitate things against their beliefs?
Steam could pursue other payment processing possibilities instead of acquiescing to their demands.
Because they're functionally a utility. If they want to throw their weight around they should be forced to compete with a public option
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Oh no, anyway.
I don't care about these games and not even about steam, but a payment provider having any power over what content a service offers is really bad. It's like your supermarket checking if you eat your food they sold you with cutlery.
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Unironically crypto
I think steam payments alone might overwhelm most of the crypto networks.
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I think steam payments alone might overwhelm most of the crypto networks.
Depends on which one, old bitcoin? Yeah. And don't even talk about lightning network, I hate it so much lol.
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While the effect of not having as much random porn on steam is kinda nice, the underlying reasons for this are fucking horrifying because it's further proof that some giant american companies (visa, paypal, mastercard) are the global morality police.
And it's just random porn subgenres getting removed anyway so it kinda does nothing about the flood of those anyway.
While the effect of not having as much random porn on steam is kinda nice
There's a box you have to check in your settings to even see it. Just turn that off if you don't want to see it.
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Not a fan of porn games (which aren't available here anyway), but that is not a good sign.
Why would they even cater to payment providers? They should not be able to determine whether you bought a porn game or a regular game, just that it's something on Steam.
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Does this mean they got rid of that one game where you drug your sister/wife repeatedly so a guy in the hallway doesn't kill you?
12 Minutes that's what it was called !
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Does this mean they got rid of that one game where you drug your sister/wife repeatedly so a guy in the hallway doesn't kill you?
12 Minutes that's what it was called !
I thought you were talking about Crusader Kings III
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shipping company should be able to refuse to ship products from businesses they don’t approve of
Sure, I don't have a problem with that. I would use another shipping company.
What about either of those companies refusing service to someone because of their sexual orientation or gender identity?
That is not remotely the same thing and a gross false equivalence.
We're talking about platforming incest hentai games and you're making a comparison to serving Black and queer people. I don't think we're going to see eye to eye on this, have a good one.
If you seriously don't understand how often queer content is falsely linked to sexual depravity in order to censor it, please take a closer look at the rhetoric of the far-right in the United States and U.K. It is absolutely not a false equivalence, it is a very serious threat that other queer game developers are now very concerned about.
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There is a lot of talk dancing around the issue here. This isn't an American thing or a Puritan thing. This is purely a capitalism thing. They have been doing this for years. Do you think lolicon got forced off of every major platform for moral reasons? It breaks laws in various counties that the web hosts and payment processors operate in. Wincest porn, CNC porn, Zoo Porn, NSFL stuff. It's all illegal somewhere. These companies are chasing profits. Those niche topics mentioned above lock them out of expanding into some places. Like China. They don't give a fuck about the ethics of the content. They care that they're loosing money by not being able to conduct business in those markets. They care that hosting it makes them a target and possible have to deal with law enforment of some country, fines, or vigilante style attacks on their network. You'll loose your little family harem video game. They don't care. They're making billions processing the main narket. It's capitalism and the global economy that's making your platforms more conservative.
"It's just good business." It pisses me off.
It's not unrelated to the puritanical thing. Otherwise they wouldn't be afraid of losing money facilitating payments for porn.
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Payment providers are run by fuckin’ puritans…
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Well I find it a bit ironic to invoke the "free market" while simultaneously asserting they should not be free to choose who they go to market with. Isn't the point of the "free market" that if Visa or Mastercard won't facilitate the needs of the market, someone else will?
Payment processors should be following the most free speech laws there are, because they have de facto monopolies. If they do have a choice though, if they don’t want to support porn, then they could choose not to be a payment processor.
Ideally they should be nationalised, or perhaps internationalised.
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I don't care about these games and not even about steam, but a payment provider having any power over what content a service offers is really bad. It's like your supermarket checking if you eat your food they sold you with cutlery.
I think a better example would be net neutrality. The whole purpose of the payment provider is to move money from Person A to Person B. Just like how ISP is meant to get you from Website A to Website B.
It would be like your ISP going "Woah there buckeroo. You can't go to Duck, Duck Go to search. We only let you go to Google."
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Not a fan of porn games (which aren't available here anyway), but that is not a good sign.
Why would they even cater to payment providers? They should not be able to determine whether you bought a porn game or a regular game, just that it's something on Steam.
Payment processors don't know which game you bought. That's not the concern.
Their concern is that the store they do business with provides services to content they deem inappropriate. Frankly, I'm surprised they allowed this much for so long given the past.
Why credit card processors are puritans, I have no idea. But MC, Visa and PayPal have historically always been super anti-porn.
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Does this mean they got rid of that one game where you drug your sister/wife repeatedly so a guy in the hallway doesn't kill you?
12 Minutes that's what it was called !
Does it count as repeatedly when its in a time loop?
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Payment processors don't know which game you bought. That's not the concern.
Their concern is that the store they do business with provides services to content they deem inappropriate. Frankly, I'm surprised they allowed this much for so long given the past.
Why credit card processors are puritans, I have no idea. But MC, Visa and PayPal have historically always been super anti-porn.
That is exactly why I don't understand why they have an issue with it.
They do not know if someone is using the store to buy porn games. So why care? Their concern should be profit, not national driven policies.
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I'm sure you have your limit too.
Otherwise you're lying to yourself. I think children not getting exposed for cartoon porn is a pretty good stop. Especially when the perpetrators seem to think it's harmless.
Stop pretending that furries is about anything other than fantasy of fucking your favorite cartoon please.
I’m sure you have your limit too.
Considering this is the very excuse used in practice right now to demonize very real people and take away their rights, I have very little sympathy for this argument that is entirely based on hypotheticals.
No. People should publish all the weird porn they want.
Especially when the perpetrators seem to think it’s harmless.
It is literally harmless. It's a fantasy.
fucking your favorite cartoon
I thought furries were usually original characters, but if someone wants to fuck Mickey Mouse, good for them.
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It’s kind of messy because I think there is a subset of the fandom where it isn’t necessarily sexualized. Like, Khajit and Argonians from Elder Scrolls are pretty much furries but they’re not explicitly sexual. Feel like I’m getting over my skis in terms of my understanding of that fandom since I’m not in that world. No idea how if at all those cons keep the kid safe stuff separate from the sex shit, if at all.
Yes, furry conventions that allow children do not allow children into 18+ spaces. At the very least there's always staff checking attendee badges which tend to say right on them if the attendee is an adult or not.
