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Plex has paywalled my server!

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  • U [email protected]

    Welp, i killed mine yesterday as it wouldnt let me stream while offline. Modem died so no Internet for me. Why do i have everything local if it dosent work while offline...

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    #116

    Exactly. Thats why i use jellyfin now. Try installing it alongside. For me it worked well.

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    • A [email protected]

      I’ve never seen the appeal. A simple smb share and Kodi work perfectly fine no?

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      #117

      Smb means you have to download the whole file. That isnt gonna fly in every configuration. But jellyfin does the trick easily.

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      • psythik@lemm.eeP [email protected]

        If you live in an area where you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass, well you're in luck because the Torrentio plug-in is compatible with Debrid services (Real-Debrid is a good one). They're cheaper than a VPN (less than €3/mo) and get you direct downloads which ISPs don't care about since you're not distributing files like you would with a torrent client. What's nice is that they work with any torrent—not just video—so you can download wherever you want at 1gbps speeds so long as the torrent has at least one seed. Since you're not actually interacting with the torrents themselves, there's no need for a VPN.

        Setup is easy. The only thing you need to do is install the Stremio app on your TV, then open it and install the Torrentio plug-in. From there you configure your preferences like preferred resolution, language, etc, enter your Debrid service credentials if you have them; after that you install additional plug-ins for the kind of content you want. I'd recommend starting off with the Streaming Catalogs (lists popular content from Netflix, Amazon, Disney HBO, etc.)and Trakt.tv plug-ins (recommends content based on your viewing habits). There's also plug-ins for anime if that's your thing. Once you install the plug-ins you like, the only thing left to do is pick something to watch and enjoy. 🙂

        You can also download the Stremio app to your phone and configure everything from there if you don't want to fumble with doing all of this with the TV remote. I'd recommend doing it this way so that all you have to do on the TV is fire up the Stremio app and enjoy.

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        #118

        If you live in an area where you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass

        Uploading copyrightes material is illegal pretty much everywhere I know of.

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        • F [email protected]

          Saying software does not have huge ongoing costs shows you’ve never worked on any huge software system. My works ongoing costs for hosting/scaling/storing data are millions of dollars a year.

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          #119

          You're both right and wrong.

          Its like saying "saying a company is easy to run shows you have never run an huge company."

          Both are false dychotomies. The amount of hosting costs, manpower, etc does not come from the project but how it is set up.

          If you have to run servers for a software at all determines the cost for hosting for example. Same for every other aspect.

          Linux is a huge software project I'm working on. Yet the cost of it is a joke compared to its size. It has way more users than plex.

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          • F [email protected]

            Are you saying that you’re on your home network with your Plex server and it won’t let you play your media without paying? That’s not true if so. You must be outside the network.

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            #120

            That is exactly the case. It is absolutely true and accusing me of lying is not okay.

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            • G [email protected]

              Every non-Free Software will betray you eventually. It's only a matter of time.

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              #121

              A little oversymplified but i'll take it. 🙂

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              • I [email protected]

                Why anyone still uses Plex for new setups is beyond me.

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                #122

                Well, i didnt. Its a legacy install and i had jellyfin already running parallel because of the remote streaming paywall they introduced.

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                • A [email protected]

                  In this thread:

                  1. An OP that doesn’t understand how their network is working
                  2. People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source. I have yet to see anyone recommend Emby.
                  3. “Tailscale will solve all your problems!” Great - how do I make that work on an LG TV that’s 100 miles away?
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                  #123

                  The condescension in your first point is brutal. I suggest you apologize.

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                  • rikudou@lemmings.worldR [email protected]

                    If you live in an area where you need a VPN to keep your ISP off your ass

                    Uploading copyrightes material is illegal pretty much everywhere I know of.

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                    #124

                    Many places don't enforce those laws for simply torrenting.

                    Some countries (US) ask the ISP to send warning letters and might disable the internet. In other countries law firms get personal details from the ISP and send a costly letter of a thousand Euro for a single infraction like in Germany.

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                    • spacecadet@feddit.nlS [email protected]

                      Free as in freedom, not as in free beer.

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                      #125

                      I thought we switched to libre for that definition and since then used free only as in free beer.

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                      • M [email protected]

                        Its not a local connection if you're getting this message. You might be in the same network, but for some reason it's not connecting directly.

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                        #126

                        You're assuming something that you just cant. I run this network alongside 5 others, some of them professional, for years. My configuration is standard and i'm using the software the same way i did for years.

                        If plex redirects my call to their server, that is their problem, not mine. I dont care what their inner workings are. I use a local address and this has happened for the first time.

                        Is it possible that it is an honest mistake on the side of plex? Yes.

                        That does not absolve them from the end result.

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                        • C [email protected]

                          Many places don't enforce those laws for simply torrenting.

                          Some countries (US) ask the ISP to send warning letters and might disable the internet. In other countries law firms get personal details from the ISP and send a costly letter of a thousand Euro for a single infraction like in Germany.

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                          #127

                          That's true, but ISPs have logs. And if something happens that makes the police change their mind about enforcing the law, you might be fucked, retroactively.

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                          • S [email protected]

                            Plex sucks the butt

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                            #128

                            They're definitely not doing the right thing with paywalling existing features on legacy systems.

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                            • H [email protected]

                              Exposing Jellyfin/ plex through routing or SNAT plus dyndns would be a cheap option.

                              As soon as one rents a VPS (to expose the selfhosted at home service through routing/ tunneling) it would cost at least 2€/ month?

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                              #129

                              Which has nothing to do with this local setup being suddenly paywalled. As others have pointed out, it seems like plex has led me to set it up in a way that always uses the remote connection and since they now paywalled that, i cant use it anymore until i either pay or change my setup.

                              Which i did. I now use jellyfin.

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                              • C [email protected]

                                It isn't hitting it locally is the issue. Not an uncommon problem with plex unfortunately, its going out to come back in, so the server and client see it as remote.

                                Without playback you wouldn't even be able to see that in the dashboard, which just makes the direction Plex is going so much more problematic.

                                Like I said, better off using JF.

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                                #130

                                Yeah, i assume it isnt. It got pointed out a couple times that it is a plex configuration problem which plex doesnt point out either btw.

                                In any case, thanks for helping and participating. Have a good one. 🙂

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  Plex has paywalled my server!

                                  Skill issue tbh.

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                                  #131

                                  Yeah but not on my end.

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    OP has set it up wrong so it’s ALL going remote, even when he’s in the same house.

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                                    #132

                                    I have it set up in a way. That does not make it wrong. This is an option that plex gives you without warning so its their problem in the first place. They also just paywalled that feature that worked for years and they're not considering the consequences or they dont care. The least they could have done is put a link "if youre seeing this on your home network, you need to do THIS."

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                                      Some FOSS projects are supported by having a for-profit company offer turnkey packaging and support for those projects. Look at TrueNAS. They sell nice NAS hardware preconfigured with their software and the profits support the development.

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                                      #133

                                      Good point. I wanna point out that plex is not foss. Its closed source software which makes those moves even more idiotic because they could have paywalled new servers and accounts instead or weaned people off from their servers if they use local only, etc.

                                      But yes, one only needs to look at foss projects like lemmy, pixelfed, kde, gnome to see how it is done. This absolutely means you have to have more people than just yourself or you will definitely burn out.

                                      Tldr: some use gov funding, kickstarter, additional features, turnkey hosting, explain and ask for donations, etc.

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                                      • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.comH [email protected]

                                        Exactly. Thats why i use jellyfin now. Try installing it alongside. For me it worked well.

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                                        #134

                                        Its already installed, but missing features, i was waiting for them to finish the db changes, because thats whats blocking them...

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                                        • A [email protected]

                                          In this thread:

                                          1. An OP that doesn’t understand how their network is working
                                          2. People rushing to suggest a solution that they fawn over because it’s open source. I have yet to see anyone recommend Emby.
                                          3. “Tailscale will solve all your problems!” Great - how do I make that work on an LG TV that’s 100 miles away?
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                                          #135

                                          fucking a, man

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