You got it, buddy
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To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.
But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.
Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.
Example:
Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:
Species: Wolf <> Wolf
Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis
Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini
Family: Dogs <> Canidae
Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia
Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora
Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.
The fact that the entire medical industry does this. I like how ChubbyEmu on Youtube will do the vocabulary resurrection "Hyponatremia. Hypo meaning low, natra meaning sodium, emia, presence in blood. Low sodium presence in blood" and then he'll use the English phrase for the rest of the video. "Because he had low blood sodium..."
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I couldn't tell you the Latin names for my own bits, either.
Edit: that said, I might not know all the street names, but I can still drive you home, and I'm not averse to asking for directions.
Mine's Biggus Dickus.
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To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.
But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.
Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.
Example:
Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:
Species: Wolf <> Wolf
Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis
Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini
Family: Dogs <> Canidae
Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia
Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora
Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Anyone who's a bit inquisitive about what words means will notice that "transform" means "changing shape", and that the teeth that look like dog fangs are called "canines". At that point, "caniformia" obviously means "dog-shaped".
Specialistic terms don't need to be easy for the layman, but to be explicative for the specialist.
I can say that "a complete lattice is the generalisation of the power set of some domain" which is a phrase composed entirely of English words but if you haven't studied anything about abstract algebra you don't knkw what it means, but that is a phrase made for math students, not for any random guy.Also those Latin terms are literally international terms, a Russian biologist will say "Canis lupus" to an Icelandic biologist and they will understand. So you really have nothing to complain about. Just be glad that Linnaeus used an agnostic language for international terminology instead of using his native language (Swedish) like the anglophones do.
P.s. you know that Mussolini had all commonly used foreign words and names translated to Italian? And to this day Italian children don't study Francis Bacon and René Descartes, but Francesco Bacone and Renato Cartesio.
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The fact that the entire medical industry does this. I like how ChubbyEmu on Youtube will do the vocabulary resurrection "Hyponatremia. Hypo meaning low, natra meaning sodium, emia, presence in blood. Low sodium presence in blood" and then he'll use the English phrase for the rest of the video. "Because he had low blood sodium..."
The entire medical industry does this so that in every language on the planet they are talking about the same thing and know that they are talking about the same thing and that there hasn't been a translation error. Hyponatremia is hyponatremia no matter what language you speak.
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To be fair, the majority of women, who have said bits, don't know what they are either, most seem to think it is all vagina.
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That's the flappy part!
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The entire medical industry does this so that in every language on the planet they are talking about the same thing and know that they are talking about the same thing and that there hasn't been a translation error. Hyponatremia is hyponatremia no matter what language you speak.
Meanwhile the aviation industry uses English worldwide.
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Anyone who's a bit inquisitive about what words means will notice that "transform" means "changing shape", and that the teeth that look like dog fangs are called "canines". At that point, "caniformia" obviously means "dog-shaped".
Specialistic terms don't need to be easy for the layman, but to be explicative for the specialist.
I can say that "a complete lattice is the generalisation of the power set of some domain" which is a phrase composed entirely of English words but if you haven't studied anything about abstract algebra you don't knkw what it means, but that is a phrase made for math students, not for any random guy.Also those Latin terms are literally international terms, a Russian biologist will say "Canis lupus" to an Icelandic biologist and they will understand. So you really have nothing to complain about. Just be glad that Linnaeus used an agnostic language for international terminology instead of using his native language (Swedish) like the anglophones do.
P.s. you know that Mussolini had all commonly used foreign words and names translated to Italian? And to this day Italian children don't study Francis Bacon and René Descartes, but Francesco Bacone and Renato Cartesio.
I don't have an issue with using scientific names in scientific contexts if you intend to publish something international researchers should be able to parse. But just like maths, there is no problem in just... translating names? Imagine if you had to phrase sentences like: "The numerus realis make up a copia infinita." You'd have to translate Latin every time new studens would be taught because most mathematical terms convey a decent amount of information.
What I do have an issue with is using these terms anywhere outside of international contexts.
A doctor should not tell their patient they have a "humerus" fracture. In German they would take about the upper arm bone.
Or imagine if a doctor told you there is an infection in your digitus pedis. Fortunately English didn't replace the term "toes" with its scientific one... YET.
Hell, I could even apply this to doctor names in English which require a dictionary for anyone trying to parse them. I had to look up half of them by the way.
Children's Doctor <> Pediatrician
Women's Doctor <> Gynecologist
Tooth Doctor <> Dentist (the least bad in my opinion - at least it's short)
Eye Doctor <> Optometrist
Neck-Nose-Ear Doctor <> Otorhinolaryngologist (wtf???)
Skin Doctor <> Dermatologist
Like, surely there must have been (native) English terms for those doctors in the past. It's not like the medical field popped into existence in the 1700's. You can't tell me a 15th century English peasent used Latin/Greek derived names for common specialized doctors.
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Meanwhile the aviation industry uses English worldwide.
Doesn't the computer science industry as well?
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I don't have an issue with using scientific names in scientific contexts if you intend to publish something international researchers should be able to parse. But just like maths, there is no problem in just... translating names? Imagine if you had to phrase sentences like: "The numerus realis make up a copia infinita." You'd have to translate Latin every time new studens would be taught because most mathematical terms convey a decent amount of information.
What I do have an issue with is using these terms anywhere outside of international contexts.
A doctor should not tell their patient they have a "humerus" fracture. In German they would take about the upper arm bone.
Or imagine if a doctor told you there is an infection in your digitus pedis. Fortunately English didn't replace the term "toes" with its scientific one... YET.
Hell, I could even apply this to doctor names in English which require a dictionary for anyone trying to parse them. I had to look up half of them by the way.
Children's Doctor <> Pediatrician
Women's Doctor <> Gynecologist
Tooth Doctor <> Dentist (the least bad in my opinion - at least it's short)
Eye Doctor <> Optometrist
Neck-Nose-Ear Doctor <> Otorhinolaryngologist (wtf???)
Skin Doctor <> Dermatologist
Like, surely there must have been (native) English terms for those doctors in the past. It's not like the medical field popped into existence in the 1700's. You can't tell me a 15th century English peasent used Latin/Greek derived names for common specialized doctors.
Otorhinolaryngologist
Ot- => ear
rhin- => nose
laryng- => throat
or just ENT, I've heard that being used.
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It's so much better to offer a demonstration.
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Doesn't the computer science industry as well?
Yeah, and for basically the same reason.
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To be fair, it would be easier if English had kept the English terms for anatomy.
But for some reason everyone decided to only use Latin and Greek derived words.
Like seriously. Nearly every time I look at Wikipedia for anything, English articles only ever use scientific terms hardly anyone will find useful.
Example:
Wolf's entire biological taxonomical tree from species to order. Both the translated German Wikipedia title and the English one:
Species: Wolf <> Wolf
Genus: Wolf- and Jackal-like <> Canis
Tribe: True Dogs <> Canini
Family: Dogs <> Canidae
Suborder: Doglike <> Caniformia
Order: Predatory animal <> Carnivora
Ask someone what "Caniformia" is and most would probably think you're talking about some region on the US West Coast. Ask someone what "Doglike" refers to and most would probably guess reasonably correct.
kept the English terms for anatomy.
Please tell me where I can find out about the original English words for these things.
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To be fair, the majority of women, who have said bits, don't know what they are either, most seem to think it is all vagina.
I mean, colloquially it is.
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Mine's Biggus Dickus.
He said Latin not lying
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I mean, colloquially it is.
Everything’s vagina
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Doesn't the computer science industry as well?
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He said Latin not lying
I have a fwend in Rome by that name!
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Meanwhile the aviation industry uses English worldwide.
And naturally not everyone wants to pick English for the common language. If we're picking one language people use over others, you'll have French people wanting theirs picked and so on. So easier to pick a language that's not the native language of anyone to sidestep that fight.
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The entire medical industry does this so that in every language on the planet they are talking about the same thing and know that they are talking about the same thing and that there hasn't been a translation error. Hyponatremia is hyponatremia no matter what language you speak.
Haha not actually. In Chinese maybe when doctors talk with each other they sometimes will use the English term (by this I mean the Latin/Greek-origin one), but mostly they translate the word bits (morphemes) one by one to Chinese (低血鈉, where 低=low, 血=blood, 鈉=sodium). They never ever use the English term to patients. You won't be able to find anyone in China or Taiwan who knows what "hyponatremia" means unless they're in the medical industry or they're just very good at English.
