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China is Systematically Dismantling Tibetan Monastic Traditions

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      China working to prevent indoctrination of children with superstitious religious practices that are harmful to the people practicing them.

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      Funny how everybody is downvoting based on knee jerk reactions, while nobody acknowledge the harmful practices.
      Always this special pleading for religious practices, that we would never accept in any other context.

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        Crickets from the ML

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          China working to prevent indoctrination of children with superstitious religious practices that are harmful to the people practicing them.

          Edit:
          Funny how everybody is downvoting based on knee jerk reactions, while nobody acknowledge the harmful practices.
          Always this special pleading for religious practices, that we would never accept in any other context.

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          More like China acting like a colonizer to kill the culture.

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            China working to prevent indoctrination of children with superstitious religious practices that are harmful to the people practicing them.

            Edit:
            Funny how everybody is downvoting based on knee jerk reactions, while nobody acknowledge the harmful practices.
            Always this special pleading for religious practices, that we would never accept in any other context.

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            A judgment that forces the reader to think perhaps you were the one who was hurt.

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              Crickets from the ML

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              They support the Han ethnostate

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                China working to prevent indoctrination of children with superstitious religious practices that are harmful to the people practicing them.

                Edit:
                Funny how everybody is downvoting based on knee jerk reactions, while nobody acknowledge the harmful practices.
                Always this special pleading for religious practices, that we would never accept in any other context.

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                So that's how they're euphemizing ethnic genocide these days, huh?

                Wonder what China is doing to prevent indoctrination of children with radical partisan CCP loyalism.

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                  China working to prevent indoctrination of children with superstitious religious practices that are harmful to the people practicing them.

                  Edit:
                  Funny how everybody is downvoting based on knee jerk reactions, while nobody acknowledge the harmful practices.
                  Always this special pleading for religious practices, that we would never accept in any other context.

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                  Can you be more specific? I've heard some people say that any amount of religion/spirituality at all is inherently harmful and that's a little bit unreasonable.

                  Admittedly, I don't have any knowledge here because this isn't an issue I've read about before, but the article says people under 18 aren't allowed to join anymore, so the extent to which monastic life is regulated seems excessive and the mandatory state approval of religious leaders seems strange.

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                    China working to prevent indoctrination of children with superstitious religious practices that are harmful to the people practicing them.

                    Edit:
                    Funny how everybody is downvoting based on knee jerk reactions, while nobody acknowledge the harmful practices.
                    Always this special pleading for religious practices, that we would never accept in any other context.

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                    Wtf do you know about those practices?!

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                      Wtf do you know about those practices?!

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                      For instance that children are send there against their will.

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                        Can you be more specific? I've heard some people say that any amount of religion/spirituality at all is inherently harmful and that's a little bit unreasonable.

                        Admittedly, I don't have any knowledge here because this isn't an issue I've read about before, but the article says people under 18 aren't allowed to join anymore, so the extent to which monastic life is regulated seems excessive and the mandatory state approval of religious leaders seems strange.

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                        How would you like to be taken as a 4 year old child to grow up in a monastery?

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                          For instance that children are send there against their will.

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                          Last time I checked, many children were sent to schools against their wills.

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                            So that's how they're euphemizing ethnic genocide these days, huh?

                            Wonder what China is doing to prevent indoctrination of children with radical partisan CCP loyalism.

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                            Religious superstition is not culture worth preserving.

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                              Last time I checked, many children were sent to schools against their wills.

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                              To live there the rest of their lives in celibacy?

                              That's a false equivalence.

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                                More like China acting like a colonizer to kill the culture.

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                                Superstition and kidnapping of children is not "culture".

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                                  Religious superstition is not culture worth preserving.

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                                  China's artificial "culture" which was installed after slaughtering their own history, isn't worth preserving.

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                                    Religious superstition is not culture worth preserving.

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                                    Well that's just objectively false. Like it or not, religion is a hugely significant part of history, and it's incredibly important for contextualization.

                                    Besides, in the modern era, if it's not hurting anyone, why do you care? Let them alone to do their thing in peace.

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                                      China's artificial "culture" which was installed after slaughtering their own history, isn't worth preserving.

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                                      Finally someone that acknowledge that a harmful culture is not necessarily always worth preserving.👍
                                      I sure hope China will become more politically democratic, but we must also acknowledge that China has made huge progress in improving conditions for their population these past 50 years. But I think the time for Communism has passed, or whatever it is they have in China.
                                      On the other hand I don't see the 1 party system as that much worse than a 2 party system. To make a real difference, it needs to be a functional democracy.
                                      But the 1 single advantage China has over most democracies, is to NOT accept religious special pleading.

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                                        They support the Han ethnostate

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                                        One China and all. Oh other people exist? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee one China!

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                                          To live there the rest of their lives in celibacy?

                                          That's a false equivalence.

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                                          Adults choose to live there by their own will, no one is forcing them to.

                                          The only party force people against their will is CCP forcing young and adult monks leave temples, and force children to live in Han-speaking schools full time without their parents.

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