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China is Systematically Dismantling Tibetan Monastic Traditions

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  • N [email protected]

    china isn't marxist at all. western communists want a hero, but there just isn't one.

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    I know. I’m talking about the ML, not China. The ML are nowhere when China is dirty.

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    • eldritch@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

      One China and all. Oh other people exist? Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee one China!

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      Ironically, most of the ML are from the USA

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        I'm all for shitting on tankies but I'm unsure what part of an all-male divine birthright theocracy they're supposed to support?

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        They hate the West's genocides we bring on ourselves.. theirs are okay.

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          Say something bad about the ML

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          They keep registering at other instances which makes blocking them all frustrating

          https://mander.xyz/comment/18955256

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            They keep registering at other instances which makes blocking them all frustrating

            https://mander.xyz/comment/18955256

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            Yeah, I’m pretty sure there’s only like 5 of them and they’re really busy switching accounts. Occasionally they’ll forget to switch and comment as someone else using the same grammar and punctuation mistakes.

            They just live in the US, hate the US, and got sucked into this fake communist thing where they simp for China and pretend to hate genocide—but only when it makes the west look bad. China can abuse the Uyghurs all day long because that’s “not happening”

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            • B [email protected]

              Superstition and kidnapping of children is not "culture".

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              Kidnapping?

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              • B [email protected]

                Religious superstition is not culture worth preserving.

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                I'm glad we have you to tell us what is and isn't culture worth preserving; we were at real risk of having a diversity of opinion for a moment there.

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                • D [email protected]

                  Ironically, most of the ML are from the USA

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                  Or other "western" nations. I've never knowingly met someone staunchly ml. That was from an area formerly or currently ml.

                  Talking to someone from China etc you generally will not hear them specifically shit on their government. Mostly because the government will come knocking and threatening violence as they did with Naomi. But you will catch them nervously deflecting to justifying it. Acknowledging it without speaking of it. Though even that could not save Naomi.

                  Hilariously Lemmy.ml is blocked in China. Where a lot of other Lemmy instances aren't strictly.

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                    And nothing of value was lost

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                    • P [email protected]

                      Never assume that mass downvoting in systems that allow up/down voting is organic when the subject matter is US foreign policy and stuff like articles that "thoughtfully" shit talk geopolitical adversaries. It's just a cheap way for fake consensus building, fake peer pressure etc. Tibet was a theocratic feudal kingdom before China ended that garbage, the kind of system that would make the KKK salivate.

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                      So colonialism/imperialism is okay? Either it is or it isn't. All I'm asking for is consistency.

                      It's 100% possible to find beliefs and practices of cults and cultures to be abhorrent. But also acknowledge that trying to forcefully change things. Almost invariably backfires. As well as undermining any moral stance you may have once had.

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                        Get out of those temples kids. It is time to consoooom

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                          Crickets from the ML

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                          🪲 (imagine this is a cricket)

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                            Kidnapping?

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                            When the Dalai Lama dies, they go around asking kids questions only the Dalai Lama would know. The one that gets the most right is considered the reincarnation and made the next Dalai Lama

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                            • eldritch@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                              Or other "western" nations. I've never knowingly met someone staunchly ml. That was from an area formerly or currently ml.

                              Talking to someone from China etc you generally will not hear them specifically shit on their government. Mostly because the government will come knocking and threatening violence as they did with Naomi. But you will catch them nervously deflecting to justifying it. Acknowledging it without speaking of it. Though even that could not save Naomi.

                              Hilariously Lemmy.ml is blocked in China. Where a lot of other Lemmy instances aren't strictly.

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                              I used to work in the Bay Area with a lot of immigrants from China and Taiwan. The Taiwanese were like “fuuuuuck China, poohbear shit” and the Chinese were like “can you marry me… please? My parents will pay the rent for 5 years.”

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                                🪲 (imagine this is a cricket)

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                                Thank you for blessing us with one of your alt accounts. Tell us how this is all fake news and that in China, people sing all day and praise the beloved Pooh bear for his beauty and wisdom.

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                                  Thank you for blessing us with one of your alt accounts. Tell us how this is all fake news and that in China, people sing all day and praise the beloved Pooh bear for his beauty and wisdom.

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                                  Woah dude.

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                                  • K [email protected]

                                    Woah dude.

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                                    Your account isn’t new, so… do you just not know what an ML is?

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                                      Your account isn’t new, so… do you just not know what an ML is?

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                                      It's just an insane read of a comment. Like step back and just read the progression on that from the outside.

                                      My only response is, woah.

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                                        It's just an insane read of a comment. Like step back and just read the progression on that from the outside.

                                        My only response is, woah.

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                                        Right, it’s insane. ML are insane. That was kinda the point. Glad my message got across haha

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                                        • B [email protected]

                                          That's whataboutism and unrelated. Although I agree that was horrible.

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                                          If China actually cared about the people. Rather than forcing the monastery closed and them to abandon their religion/culture. They would simply offer to relocate them away from the monastery if they feared for their children.

                                          Without children and followers to harness. The religion would die on its own. Even as the general culture would endure. China explicitly does not want that. China specifically is trying to oppress and eradicate cultural differences.

                                          People are 100% Justified to call China out on this. And in doing so are not defending all of tibet's actions. Two things can be wrong at the same time. All sides can be wrong at the same time. This is one of those cases. There is no defense of China or Tibet here. China is not doing this out of some goodness of their heart or humanitarian need. Simply their own selfish goals.

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