Trump says Canada and Mexico to be hit with 25% tariffs on Saturday

[cyborganism@lemmy.ca]

and if anyone up there wants to come renovate the white house again… i won’t be in your way.

[cyborganism@lemmy.ca]

That's a really good explanation and I wish more Americans had this knowledge before they voted.

[captainlezbian@lemmy.world]

Can confirm am leaving it.

For real though, aspects of Ohio are awesome. Republicans ruined it though

[captainlezbian@lemmy.world]

Ooh you missed out on Athens Ohio. Beautiful city in the mountains

[captainlezbian@lemmy.world]

Yeah but any time the state does anything good by ballot initiative the state government does something regressive out of spite

[ubergeek@lemmy.today]

As an American, I'm loving this... Really. Its high time we feel the pain we've inflicted on other countries. Our "comeuppance" if you will.

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

It will unless it can come from somewhere else.

[werefreeatlast@lemmy.world]

I love how old the orange asshole looks in the photos. Hopefully things just work out in our favor soon. It could be a permanent sleep or maybe a nice golf ball to the forehead or choked on a pretzel. I think we should probably place some ...legal... Bets on how it all goes down? It shouldn't that that long. I remember when my Grandma looked like that and we buried her a few months later.

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

Problem there might be transport. You need to do it without crossing a US border.

How much shipping goes between Canada and Mexico?

[shaggysnacks@lemmy.myserv.one]

I really like this idea.

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

What does Mexico export to the US that isn't a consumer good?

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

It's the US that needs to produce locally. The rest of us are happy trading with each other, same as before.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

Maybe the free trade would allow trains and the like to go right through the USA without selling anything?

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

Why would they want to do that?

[immutable@lemm.ee]

American ruling class. Oh would you look at that, we just found a 24.99999% price hike that we definitely have to do because economy. Still cheaper though than the Canadian and Mexican imports.

It’s just the rest of America that is going to get fucked.

[whostosay@lemmy.world]

https://jwmason.org/slackwire/what-exactly-does-the-us-buy-from-mexico/

This is a good list from a quick search, other search results states a lot of vehicles (in this case we'd be talking about vehicles for industry) agricultural (I didn't look far enough but it could be both produce which would be consumer, but it could also have some ag production products, and machinery, machinery probably being the largest non consumer good product depending on how much that agricultural divide is between consumer/industry.

Included in that list is oil, that would be non consumer, computers would be roughly the same split if not more than agricultural considering companies go through computers more than the average consumer. Computers is also a pretty broad tag so take that with a grain of salt.

Services and other seems kind of substantial, this is not my area at all, just relaying a search essentially, so that could go either way if included in the tariffs at all.

[t00l_shed@lemmy.world]

Isn't that the whole.purpose of the free trade agreement?

[tekato@lemmy.world]

I can't believe some people think that putting tariffs on a country means the country will just give the government 25% of everything and the merchants of that country are not just going to raise the prices to match the new expenses(or maybe even a little bit more since they have a good excuse to change prices)

I’m not sure anyone believes that. The point of tariffs is that merchants will have to increase prices to keep the same profit, causing people to purchase less of the product and look for cheaper alternatives (those without tariffs).

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

Those things will still have impact on consumer prices though. Agricultural vehicles costing more will increase domestically produced food prices (didn't John Dear just move production there). Oil costing more increases transport costs on everything, but at least could be sourced from elsewhere.

I don't really see how exceptions could be made to protect consumers without undercutting the whole thing. I expect to be on everything or nothing.

[wewbull@feddit.uk]

Right, but the tariffs will shoot that dead.