AGI achieved 🤖
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I want an option to select Marvin the paranoid android mood: "there's your answer, now if you could leave me to wallow in self-pitty"
Here I am, emissions the size of a small country, and they ask me to count letters...
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ohh god, I never through to ask reasoning models,
DeepSeekR17b was gold too
It's painful how Reddit that is...
So,
Now,
Alright,
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I really like checking these myself to make sure it’s true. I WAS NOT DISAPPOINTED!
(Total Rs is 8. But the LOGIC ChatGPT pulls out is ……. remarkable!)
What is this devilry?
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I want an option to select Marvin the paranoid android mood: "there's your answer, now if you could leave me to wallow in self-pitty"
Lol someone could absolutely do that as a character card.
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And people are trusting these things to do jobs / parts of jobs that humans used to do.
Humans are pretty dumb sometimes lol
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Have you ever been to a very dense jungle or forest... at midnight?
Ok, now, drop mortar and naval artillery shells all over it.
For weeks, or months.
The holes this creates are commonly used by both sides as cover and concealment.
Also, its often raining, sometimes quite heavily, such that these holes will up with water, and you are thus soaking wet.
Ok, now, add in pillboxes and bunkers, as well as a few spiderwebs of underground tunnel networks, many of which have concealed entrances.
You do not have a phone. GPS does not exist.
You might have a map, which is out of date, and you might have a compass, if you didn't drop or break it.
A radio is either something stationary, or is the size and weight of approximately, somewhat less than a miniature refrigerator, and one bullet or good piece of shrapnel will take it out of commission.
Ok, now, you and all your buddies are either half starving or actually starving, beyond exhausted, getting maybe an average of 2 to 4 hours of sleep, and you, and the enemy, are covered in dirt, blood and grime.
Also, you and everyone else may or may not have malaria, or some other fun disease, so add shit and vomit to the mix of what everyone is covered in.
Ok! Enjoy your 2 to 8 week long camping trip from hell, in these conditions... also, kill everyone that is trying to kill you, soldier.
It's weird foot soldiers kept killing each other.
It's not weird we had 'frag' as a verb from the Vietnam war.
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It's painful how Reddit that is...
So,
Now,
Alright,
Probably where 90% of the training for this particular problem came from.
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I wonder how QWEN 3.0 performs cause it surpasses Deepseek apparently
I don't have any other models pulled down, if they're open I'll try it and respond back here
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Humans are pretty dumb sometimes lol
It's far better at the use of there, their, and they're.
The average US citizen couldn't craft a professional sounding document of their life depended on it.
It's not better than a professional at anything, The average human is far below that bar.
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You've missed something about the Chinese Room. The solution to the Chinese Room riddle is that it is not the person in the room but rather the room itself that is communicating with you. The fact that there's a person there is irrelevant, and they could be replaced with a speaker or computer terminal.
Put differently, it's not an indictment of LLMs that they are merely Chinese Rooms, but rather one should be impressed that the Chinese Room is so capable despite being a completely deterministic machine.
If one day we discover that the human brain works on much simpler principles than we once thought, would that make humans any less valuable? It should be deeply troubling to us that LLMs can do so much while the mathematics behind them are so simple. Arguments that because LLMs are just scaled-up autocomplete they surely can't be very good at anything are not comforting to me at all.
This.
I often see people shitting on AI as "fancy autocomplete" or joking about how they get basic things incorrect like this post but completely discount how incredibly fucking capable they are in every domain that actually matters. That's what we should be worried about... what does it matter that it doesn't "work the same" if it still accomplishes the vast majority of the same things? The fact that we can get something that even approximates logic and reasoning ability from a deterministic system is terrifying on implications alone. -
People who think that LLMs having trouble with these questions is evidence one way or another about how good or bad LLMs are just don't understand tokenization. This is not a symptom of some big-picture deep problem with LLMs; it's a curious artifact like in a jpeg image, but doesn't really matter for the vast majority of applications.
You may hate AI but that doesn't excuse being ignorant about how it works.
Also just checked and every open ai model bigger than 4.1-mini can answer this. I think the joke should emphasize how we developed a super power inefficient way to solve some problems that can be accurately and efficiently answered with a single algorithm. Another example is using ChatGPT to do simple calculator math. LLMs are good at specific tasks and really bad at others, but people kinda throw everything at them.
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Blindsight is such a great novel. It has not one, not two but three great sci-fi concepts rolled into one book.
One is artificial intelligence (the ship's captain is an AI), the second is alien life so vastly different it appears incomprehensible to human minds. And last but not least, and the most wild, vampires as a evolutionary branch of humanity that died out and has been recreated in the future.
My a favorite part of the vampire thing is how they died out. Turns out vampires start seizing when trying to visually process 90° angles, and humans love building shit like that (not to mention a cross is littered with them). It's so mundane an extinction I'd almost believe it.
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You've missed something about the Chinese Room. The solution to the Chinese Room riddle is that it is not the person in the room but rather the room itself that is communicating with you. The fact that there's a person there is irrelevant, and they could be replaced with a speaker or computer terminal.
Put differently, it's not an indictment of LLMs that they are merely Chinese Rooms, but rather one should be impressed that the Chinese Room is so capable despite being a completely deterministic machine.
If one day we discover that the human brain works on much simpler principles than we once thought, would that make humans any less valuable? It should be deeply troubling to us that LLMs can do so much while the mathematics behind them are so simple. Arguments that because LLMs are just scaled-up autocomplete they surely can't be very good at anything are not comforting to me at all.
one should be impressed that the Chinese Room is so capable despite being a completely deterministic machine.
I'd be more impressed if the room could tell me how many "r"s are in Strawberry inside five minutes.
If one day we discover that the human brain works on much simpler principles
Human biology, famous for being simple and straightforward.
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No, the logic for a Pac Man ghost is a solid state machine
Stupid people attributing intelligence to something that is probably not is a shameful hill to die on.
Your god is just an autocomplete bot that you refuse to learn about outside the hype bubble
Okay, what is your definition of AI then, if nothing burned onto silicon can count?
If LLMs aren't AI, then absolutely nothing up to this point probably counts either.
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Okay, what is your definition of AI then, if nothing burned onto silicon can count?
If LLMs aren't AI, then absolutely nothing up to this point probably counts either.
since nothing burned into silicon can count
Oh noo you called me a robot racist. Lol fuck off dude you know that's not what I'm saying
The problem with supporters of AI is they learned everything they know from the companies trying to sell it to them. Like a 50s mom excited about her magic tupperware.
AI implies intelligence
To me that means an autonomous being that understands what it is.
First of all these programs aren't autonomous, they need to be seeded by us. We send a prompt or question, even when left alone to its own devices it doesn't do anything until it is given an objective or reward by us.
Looking up the most common answer isn't intelligence, there is no understanding of cause and effect going on inside the algorithm, just regurgitating the dataset
These models do not reason, though some do a very good job of trying to convince us.
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Tested on ChatGPT o4-mini-high
It sent me this
0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 0I asked it to remove the spaces
0001111100000000 0011111111000000 0011111110000000 0111111111100000 0111111111110000 0011111111100000 0001111111000000 0011111100000000 0111111111100000 1111111111110000 1111111111110000 1111111111110000 1111111111110000 0011100111000000 0111000011100000 1111000011110000I guess I just murdered a bunch of trees and killed a random dude with the water it used, but it looks good
I just murdered a bunch of trees and killed a random dude with the water it used, but it looks good
Tech bros: "Worth it!"
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since nothing burned into silicon can count
Oh noo you called me a robot racist. Lol fuck off dude you know that's not what I'm saying
The problem with supporters of AI is they learned everything they know from the companies trying to sell it to them. Like a 50s mom excited about her magic tupperware.
AI implies intelligence
To me that means an autonomous being that understands what it is.
First of all these programs aren't autonomous, they need to be seeded by us. We send a prompt or question, even when left alone to its own devices it doesn't do anything until it is given an objective or reward by us.
Looking up the most common answer isn't intelligence, there is no understanding of cause and effect going on inside the algorithm, just regurgitating the dataset
These models do not reason, though some do a very good job of trying to convince us.
you called me a robot racist.
.....what?
Looking up the most common answer isn’t intelligence, there is no understanding of cause and effect going on inside the algorithm
In order for that to be true, the entire dataset would need to be contained within the LLM. Which it is not. If it were, a model wouldn't have to undergo training.
AI implies intelligence
You seem to be mistaking 'intelligence' for 'human-like intelligence'. This is not how AI is defined. AI can be dumber than a gnat, but if it's capable of making decisions based on stimulus without each set of stimulus and decision being directly coded into it, then it's AI. It's the difference between what is ACTUALLY called AI, and when a sci-fi show or novel talks about AI.
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you called me a robot racist.
.....what?
Looking up the most common answer isn’t intelligence, there is no understanding of cause and effect going on inside the algorithm
In order for that to be true, the entire dataset would need to be contained within the LLM. Which it is not. If it were, a model wouldn't have to undergo training.
AI implies intelligence
You seem to be mistaking 'intelligence' for 'human-like intelligence'. This is not how AI is defined. AI can be dumber than a gnat, but if it's capable of making decisions based on stimulus without each set of stimulus and decision being directly coded into it, then it's AI. It's the difference between what is ACTUALLY called AI, and when a sci-fi show or novel talks about AI.
Yeah I'm not interested in how you put words in my mouth to fit the talking points you were hoping I would fall for
We're done here
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I just murdered a bunch of trees and killed a random dude with the water it used, but it looks good
Tech bros: "Worth it!"
It's a pretty big problem, but as long as governments don't do shit then we're pretty much fucked.
Either we take the train and contribute to the problem, or we don't but get left behind, and end up being the harmed one.
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Yeah I'm not interested in how you put words in my mouth to fit the talking points you were hoping I would fall for
We're done here
Erm. I'm trying to clear up what I thought looked like misconceptions you have about AI in regards to real-world applications, but I seem to have come on too strong, and I apologize; I have a tendency to put on a know-it-all attitude and it's something I'm trying to work on.
Have a good day, I'll leave you alone now.
