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  • R [email protected]

    I'm actually sad about this one. He was by far the best pope of my lifetime.

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    Low bar.

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      I am surpringly annoyed about Americans somehow finding a way to make this about themselves.

      In reality I'm much more worried about the likely counterreformist pushback that is likely about to happen. We're about to find out if a remarkably powerful organization's leader was able to seed enough support to secure a politically aligned successor, and if the answer is "no" a bunch of organizations are about to get even more ruthlessly conservative at a time when a new strain of fascism is seeking moral support. The Catholic Church has been here before. It didn't go well.

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        It sure feels like the tides are turning conservative everywhere, but apparently a Filipino progressive is a favorite to be next

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        • gradually_adjusting@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

          Low bar.

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          Yes, but if the next one is a little better, and the next one, and the next one...

          The church evolves very slowly.

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            Why is this pinned? This person was the CEO of a cult persuading people ghosts are real and manipulating them to give the cult money. Thanks god he's dead.

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            • R [email protected]

              I'm actually sad about this one. He was by far the best pope of my lifetime.

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              Don't be sad, he was as just bad as any of his colleagues.

              https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/world/europe/pope-francis-homophobic-slur.html

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                Should've worn a suite to that JD Vance meeting.

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                • I [email protected]

                  Don't be sad, he was as just bad as any of his colleagues.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/world/europe/pope-francis-homophobic-slur.html

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                  I have terrible news for you if you think using a homophobic slur is as bad as anything the previous popes and cardinals have been doing.

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                  • I [email protected]

                    Don't be sad, he was as just bad as any of his colleagues.

                    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/world/europe/pope-francis-homophobic-slur.html

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                    Francis was known as a liberal reformer, making headlines across the globe by permitting the blessing of same-sex couples and promoting global action on climate change.

                    Francis worked as a janitor and a chemical technician in the food-processing industry before entering the seminary.

                    He was outspoken about clergy abuse and called on the Catholic Church to "act decisively" against paedophile priests just months after his 2013 appointment.

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                    • T [email protected]

                      I have terrible news for you if you think using a homophobic slur is as bad as anything the previous popes and cardinals have been doing.

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                      The homophobic slurs should also be a reminder that the catholic church is a homophobic cult.

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                      • mudman@fedia.ioM [email protected]

                        I am surpringly annoyed about Americans somehow finding a way to make this about themselves.

                        In reality I'm much more worried about the likely counterreformist pushback that is likely about to happen. We're about to find out if a remarkably powerful organization's leader was able to seed enough support to secure a politically aligned successor, and if the answer is "no" a bunch of organizations are about to get even more ruthlessly conservative at a time when a new strain of fascism is seeking moral support. The Catholic Church has been here before. It didn't go well.

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                        "Francis appointed nearly 80% of the cardinal electors who will choose the next pope, increasing the possibility that his successor will continue his progressive policies, despite the strong pushback from traditionalists."

                        https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-francis-has-died-vatican-says-video-statement-2025-04-21/

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                          It's just a religion, we strip it of any power if they misbehave.

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                          • eyekaytee@aussie.zoneE [email protected]

                            Francis was known as a liberal reformer, making headlines across the globe by permitting the blessing of same-sex couples and promoting global action on climate change.

                            Francis worked as a janitor and a chemical technician in the food-processing industry before entering the seminary.

                            He was outspoken about clergy abuse and called on the Catholic Church to "act decisively" against paedophile priests just months after his 2013 appointment.

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                            Francis was known as a liberal reformer, making headlines across the globe by permitting the blessing of same-sex couples and promoting global action on climate change.

                            He was also known as the ceo of a homophobic and misogynist cult and for strolling around italy in a private helicopter.

                            He was outspoken about clergy abuse and called on the Catholic Church to “act decisively” against paedophile priests just months after his 2013 appointment.

                            https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/19/pope-francis-victims-church-sexual-abuse-slander-chile

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                            • I [email protected]

                              Don't be sad, he was as just bad as any of his colleagues.

                              https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/world/europe/pope-francis-homophobic-slur.html

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                              This was tbe same man that said being homosexual isn't a crime and doesn't merit persecution for it, albeit by the catholic creed being a sin.

                              An insult is only as long someone allows it to be.

                              Downvote away.

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                              • W [email protected]

                                It's just a religion, we strip it of any power if they misbehave.

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                                Cultism is such a potent tendency of the human animal that new cults form spontaneously in the absence of established mythologies (or despite them). Fascism is a cult phenomenon, for instance, and the people vulnerable to such belief systems are unerringly broken in the same way that religious people are broken. It’s like someone scooped out the part of their brains responsible for maintaining epistemic norms and replaced it with oatmeal.

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                                • I [email protected]

                                  Francis was known as a liberal reformer, making headlines across the globe by permitting the blessing of same-sex couples and promoting global action on climate change.

                                  He was also known as the ceo of a homophobic and misogynist cult and for strolling around italy in a private helicopter.

                                  He was outspoken about clergy abuse and called on the Catholic Church to “act decisively” against paedophile priests just months after his 2013 appointment.

                                  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/19/pope-francis-victims-church-sexual-abuse-slander-chile

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                                  “As if I could have taken a selfie or a photo while Karadima abused me and others and Juan Barros stood by watching it all,” tweeted Barros’s most vocal accuser, Juan Carlos Cruz. “These people are truly crazy, and the pontiff talks about atonement to the victims. Nothing has changed, and his plea for forgiveness is empty.”

                                  Wasn't this then 6 months later:

                                  Pope Francis begins purge at Chilean church over sex abuse scandal

                                  Francis realized he had misjudged the Chilean situation after meeting with Cruz and reading the 2,300-page report compiled by two leading Vatican investigators about the depth of Chile’s scandal, which has devastated the credibility of the church in a once overwhelmingly Roman Catholic country in the pope’s native Latin America.

                                  “A new day has begun in Chile’s Catholic Church!” tweeted Juan Carlos Cruz, the abuse survivor who denounced Barros for years and pressed for the Vatican to take action.

                                  “I’m thrilled for all those who have fought to see this day,” he said. “The band of delinquent bishops … begins to disintegrate today.”

                                  https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/pope-francis-begins-purge-at-chilean-church-over-sex-abuse-scandal
                                  https://apnews.com/article/33b208ef4bc84576a503b059629607db

                                  Sounds like you could maybe... forgive him... for making a mistake while attempting to cleanup the worst mess in modern catholic history?

                                  But I'm not a catholic or religious at all

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                                  • I [email protected]

                                    Why is this pinned? This person was the CEO of a cult persuading people ghosts are real and manipulating them to give the cult money. Thanks god he's dead.

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                                    There's a time and place to be a euphoric neckbeard. This is neither.

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                                    • Q [email protected]

                                      This was tbe same man that said being homosexual isn't a crime and doesn't merit persecution for it, albeit by the catholic creed being a sin.

                                      An insult is only as long someone allows it to be.

                                      Downvote away.

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                                      He did get a lot of things right:

                                      Pope Francis says Trump 'is not a Christian,' Trump responds

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnv6tIRW86A

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        There's a time and place to be a euphoric neckbeard. This is neither.

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                                        The cult this guy is the internally appointed CEO of, does not spare people guilty of homosexuality even after their dead: they are to be damned for the rest of the eternity.

                                        A pinned post where people are praising him to me looks like the right time and place to remind people about the shady shit this guy was involved in.

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                                        • E [email protected]

                                          Yes, but if the next one is a little better, and the next one, and the next one...

                                          The church evolves very slowly.

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                                          If politics is anything to take a pattern from, things will get slightly better, but those moments of hope are followed by gigantic steps backwards.

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