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Apple Pulls Encrypted iCloud Security Feature in UK Amid Government Backdoor Demands

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      but I thought apple were the good guys /s

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        A better title would be “Apple helps the US government bypass the 4th amendment”.

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          but I thought apple were the good guys /s

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          tbh if the government demanded fediverse servers do this then they'll probably comply as well, I really don't think this is apple's fault as much as i hate them and every similar tech megacorps

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            A better title would be “Apple helps the US government bypass the 4th amendment”.

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            Does UK even have 4th am tho

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              A better title would be “Apple helps the US government bypass the 4th amendment”.

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              This is in the UK.
              Not the US.

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                Does UK even have 4th am tho

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                No, but they’re part of 5 Eyes. The US government can ask MI5 to spy on US citizens, which gets around 4th amendment protections.

                This will allow them to spy on any US citizens with dual citizenship.

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                  This is in the UK.
                  Not the US.

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                  The UK is part of 5 Eyes. They swap info on citizens among members. No warrants, no constitutional protections. All they have to do is ask MI5 for info on Americans with dual citizenship.

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                    Reminder that you don’t need to use iCloud backup; local backups still work fine and are encrypted.

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                      No, but they’re part of 5 Eyes. The US government can ask MI5 to spy on US citizens, which gets around 4th amendment protections.

                      This will allow them to spy on any US citizens with dual citizenship.

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                      Us citizen presumably still has access to encryption feature tho

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                        A better title would be “Apple helps the US government bypass the 4th amendment”.

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                        Yeah we don't have enough American news, we should start reframing other countries' news into how it affects America

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                          but I thought apple were the good guys /s

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                          I kind of think going no encryption is arguably better than agreeing to a backdoor, since it should make it clear to consumers that they can’t trust it as safe and should probably use an alternative that would be more secure. I don’t know how many trustworthy alternatives really exist on iOS, though, not least because Apple has allegedly used their position to discourage competitors to iCloud.

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                            tbh if the government demanded fediverse servers do this then they'll probably comply as well, I really don't think this is apple's fault as much as i hate them and every similar tech megacorps

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                            I don't think so

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                              The UK is part of 5 Eyes. They swap info on citizens among members. No warrants, no constitutional protections. All they have to do is ask MI5 for info on Americans with dual citizenship.

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                              That stretch of logic sounds an awful lot, like a post-hoc justification after assuming it was about the US. But ok

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                                That stretch of logic sounds an awful lot, like a post-hoc justification after assuming it was about the US. But ok

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                                No no no, he's just american and thinks the universe centers around the US

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                                  Reminder that you don’t need to use iCloud backup; local backups still work fine and are encrypted.

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                                  I don’t think it’s just the backups. Apple’s site says it’s things “such as” wallet, notes, photos, documents, bookmarks, reminders, voice memos, shortcuts, messages backup, and device backup. The such as seems to imply there’s more.

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                                    Us citizen presumably still has access to encryption feature tho

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                                    Not if they are in the UK? Idk, that’s probably a weird edge case, but unless we’re all free, nobody is.

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                                      Yeah we don't have enough American news, we should start reframing other countries' news into how it affects America

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                                      It affects certain people from America. I have a relative who is directly affected by this.

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                                        That stretch of logic sounds an awful lot, like a post-hoc justification after assuming it was about the US. But ok

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                                        One of my in-laws has dual England/US citizenship. They divide their time between the two countries. It directly effects them.

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                                          No no no, he's just american and thinks the universe centers around the US

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                                          No, the only thing I wish would center around the US is an asteroid. I absolutely hate it here, but I don’t have the means to leave.

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