Mozilla Thunderbird Challenges Gmail With Its Own Email Service
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I have it but it eats up battery on the phones and the Dev left so it's probably going to go caput at some point.
wrote 23 days ago last edited byCheck out the fork on fdroid
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I have it but it eats up battery on the phones and the Dev left so it's probably going to go caput at some point.
wrote 23 days ago last edited byAw man, I really love syncthing, especially across my computers/backup server at home. I don’t even know what I’d use instead
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People still use Email???
wrote 23 days ago last edited byTell me you have no meaningful impact on the world without telling me you have no meaningful impact on the world.
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What is it that you're concerned about? Assume that I have no idea what either the new or old Mozilla privacy policy is, please. I tend to assume that all such are a pack of lies and everything is spying on me.
wrote 23 days ago last edited byhttps://www.zdnet.com/article/the-firefox-i-loved-is-gone-how-to-protect-your-privacy-on-it-now/
That article says it better than I can in s short post. Firefox's terms of use/privacy policy went over like a lead balloon last month.
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You can't know that with absolute certainty. Sorry, but if you're using someone elses server for your communications and they're not end to end encrypted, you should just assume that they can and do read your emails, and act accordingly.
wrote 23 days ago last edited byMine is E2EE.
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https://www.zdnet.com/article/the-firefox-i-loved-is-gone-how-to-protect-your-privacy-on-it-now/
That article says it better than I can in s short post. Firefox's terms of use/privacy policy went over like a lead balloon last month.
wrote 23 days ago last edited byThanks for the link.
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Why not having an archive of exclusively warranties? Emails can be downloaded, indexed and compressed.
wrote 23 days ago last edited bySo you don't really want to archive in the technical sense, you want it offline for security, which is valid but extremely inconvenient for regular end users.
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yeah, might seem good to have yet another choice, but it's an illusion
wrote 23 days ago last edited byIf they're user funded, their incentives are fundamentally different from Google's. It makes no sense to enshittify like Google does. It's a different choice, even if it's not the choice you wanted.
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From my understanding thunbird is somewhat separated from this. From the article linked by OP it says:
What’s crystal clear is that Thunderbird’s ever-increasing donation revenue (currently its sole source of income) is allowing for some explosive growth that’s long overdue. To add some context to this, Thunderbird received $2.8 million in donation revenue during 2021. Two years later, in 2023, it received $8.6 million in donations. I’m told that total financial contributions for 2024 were even higher, though the final amount hasn’t been officially released.
wrote 23 days ago last edited byI should donate again. As someone who still depends on gmail, I keep forgetting how annoying it was to get ads every time I refreshed my inbox, before I switched to their app. Glad things seem to be working out.
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People still use Email???
wrote 23 days ago last edited bymostly people with jobs
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At home but separate computer with reverse proxy.
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I know there's a fork. I'm hoping it picks up devs from where its at. It works beautifully.
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I keep hearing a lot of negative comments about Mozilla lately. I’m wondering if this move is more in line with then just turning into another google rather than disrupting the marketplace.
wrote 23 days ago last edited byyes but this takes time. its great to have alternatives in the meantime.
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Err... does this mean we can get a Mozilla or Thunderbird email address?
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Thunderbird Pro will apparently be:
This email thing plus Thunderbird Send (which is basically https://send.vis.ee/), Thunderbird Appointment - a scheduling tool and Thunderbird Assist, which is:
"...at least for now, being cautiously labeled as “an experiment” that will allow users to take advantage of AI features within their email. However, the goal is to be lightweight enough that the language models can be run locally on a user’s PC in the interest of privacy. This service is being developed in partnership with Flower AI, which leverages Nvidia’s confidential compute to provide private remote processing in the event a user’s PC isn’t powerful enough. Sipes emphasizes that any remote processing features attached to Thunderbird Assist will always be optional, in the interest of ensuring complete user privacy."
So AI shit that nobody asked for or wants.
wrote 23 days ago last edited by"[...] This service is being developed in partnership with Flower AI, which leverages Nvidia’s confidential compute to provide private remote processing in the event a user’s PC isn’t powerful enough. Sipes emphasizes that any remote processing features attached to Thunderbird Assist will always be optional, in the interest of ensuring complete user privacy.”
That's a lot of words to say "we made an AI that totally won't suck up your data, trust me bro"
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At home but separate computer with reverse proxy.
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You will have trouble getting your outbound mail delivered -
I have it but it eats up battery on the phones and the Dev left so it's probably going to go caput at some point.
wrote 22 days ago last edited byYou really need to clarify your comment, as it's already causing confusion.
- The official Syncthing project is going strong, and is not the same thing as the Android app.
- The Android app was discontinued late last year due to Google's increasingly difficult requirements to publish on the Play Store.
- Syncthing-Fork is now what Syncthing recommends for Android users.
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Syncthing still works like that. It’s completely self hostable. I have it on a pi 1B+ lol
wrote 22 days ago last edited bySyncthing was only ever self-hosted...
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I know there's a fork. I'm hoping it picks up devs from where its at. It works beautifully.
wrote 22 days ago last edited byThat fork is what the Syncthing devs recommend. Pretty sure it's fine.
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Aw man, I really love syncthing, especially across my computers/backup server at home. I don’t even know what I’d use instead
wrote 22 days ago last edited bySyncthing isn't going anywhere. The Android app is the only thing that was dropped, and that was only because of Google's increasingly-difficult requirements to publish on the Play Store.
Syncthing-Fork is the spiritual successor to the original Android app and can be found on F-Droid.
