The So-Called “Free Speech Warriors” – Even in Switzerland, Speaking Out Can Get You Arrested
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Fedpol will ban people connected to political causes and organizations it deems unacceptable.
Yes, that's the point. That's the thing we're calling out.
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but his post on X seemed to celebrate destruction and murder.
Lol, if Switzerland kicked out every European who generically celebrated destruction or murder, it would be an empty country.
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Oh really? Can you show me some examples of anyone being arrested for approving of Israel's crimes?
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"it's ok for the government to suppress free speech if the government declares that free speech unacceptable"
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But isn’t it understandable that Switzerland does not want foreign political organisations to interfere with the political landscape in Switzerland?
As told above already, I just hope (and fear that is not) that similar extremists supporting attacks from Isreal, are banned from entering our country as well.
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Only popular people get onto the radar of Fedpol.
And Switzerland has swiss citizens, there are not only European people in Switzerland.
And yea, I agree, that Fedpol does not always do the right decision, meaning false positives and false negatives.
But with this guy, I agree with fedpol, at least with that little information I have, hope this X posts are really from him and mot a smear campaign.
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Lol, I have to check out if I can block you. I despice right wing troll. But this is the headline of the article you cited and on which I commented:
"Erneut hätte ein Islamist in Zürich auftreten sollen, nun ist der Mann verhaftet worden. Regierungsrat Mario Fehr spricht von einem «Judenhasser»"
Und "Islamist" heißt auf english halt "islamist". Versuch nicht meinen Kommentar zu verdrehen. Unglaublich, AFD-Taktiken...
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Of course you can block me, bit what is it worth, it limits you to see other opinions..
damn, and yea you are right, i have overseen that.
How to you call people who believe in the islamistic religion?
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100%. They are so delusional that 48,000+ innocent deaths are meaning nothing, but their argument starts from October 7th. When Palestinians have been facing this for 75 years.
I come to your house, steal your stuff, tell you to fuj off. Obviously, you’re gonna fight back. Seems like minds in the West are so full of hatred towards Muslims, Arabs, and brown people that they’ve lost their humanity.
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Supporter and extremist is not the same
Yes, actually, it is.
My personal opinion is, that every country has “bad” and “good” people and I have no desire to have extremists in my country
Great, when are you going to be leaving?
If fedPol really does such a bad job preventing Israel supporting extremism from entering Switzerland, we indeed have to change that.
You're not going to though. You will continue to persecute opposition to it though.
I support free speech
No. You don't. You support speech that is not too far from what you believe, but nothing too different.
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With that definition, I would be an extremist as well, lol
Not gonna leave a country where we have a working mechanism to make changes in the constitution based on the will of it’s people
If that is the case, I will donate to organisations who make a proper investigation about it and use its results to issue an initiative changing that. I do that via the party that I am a member of (swiss pirate party)
how do you get to that conclusion, I am all in for free speech, as long as it don’t celebrate violence
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Supporter and Extremist is not the same.
I don’t know this person not well enough to decide where to place him, but seeing his post on X, I strongly assume, that he advocated violence.
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Supporter and Extremist is not the same.
Given that merely supporting Hamas apparently makes you an extremist, they sure seem to be.
I strongly assume, that he advocated violence
So anyone who supports the military is an extremist?
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With that definition, I would be an extremist as well, lol
Yes, correct. Sounds like you're finally starting to understand my point.
Not gonna leave a country where we have a working mechanism to make changes in the constitution based on the will of it’s people
Oh sorry, I thought you said you don't want extremists in your country.
I am all in for free speech, as long as it don’t celebrate violence
So you are, in fact, not for free speech. Given you apparently don't think people should be allowed to openly celebrate things like the defeat of the Nazis
Though I notice you yourself support the violent act of expelling a person from a part of our shared planet.
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I have no idea what went on behind the scenes.
What is clear however, is that the Swiss authorities look like pants-on-head morons, as well as fascists, for letting him in at the border and then arresting him 1930s-style less than 36 hours later.
And by the way, so do you. You look like a pants-on-head moron and a fascist for defending them.
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Yea, Supporting Hamas does, if you actually try convincing other people to do the same, since Switzerland officially sees Hamas as Terror organisation. Fedpol has only acted based on that, but not decided it.
Just supporting Palestine does not make you extremist
Yea, anyone who supports military to invade other countries is in my eyes an extremist. But I have to investigate how the definition of extremist is officially in swiss government.