Content curation in the Fediverse is better!
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I do not think it’s a good idea to isolate people in cults in their own echo chambers… although my faith in humanity and basic decency has seen better days, I still believe good examples matter.
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Thank you so much!!!
I couldn’t have said it any better.
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This is what I love about the fediverse. It is the closest to actual anarchist communities I’ve seen and it works great.
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On mastodon I follow a lot of hashtags and so I will mute foreign language accounts so they don’t show up in my home feed. Thankfully I’ve never had to block an entire instance but I chalk that up to troublesome instances already being defederated from my instance
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Fascist ideas don't spread because they make good points. They spread because they get repeated so much. People who don't know any better believe it because they've heard it so many times, or from someone they trust. Federating with fascists gives them more people to spread their ideas to.
Talking to conservatives can definitely help, but it really depends on the context. Just having people who they disagree with in their lives can can be helpful. If you're someone they trust you might get them to work through some things. Or if you know a topic really well and know what talking points they're likely to bring up. But it's nearly impossible to get though to people who already hate you.
Everyone is at a different place with what they want to handle. Some people just want a small friendly community where they have a chance to relax. Others want a more open communities that only keep out the worst. And some are okay with putting up with harassment to reach more people. But generally we shouldn't force others to put up with that harassment along with us.
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You're the only one insulting yourself. The toxicity is heavily attached to you. A lot of the rest of us are having a fine conversation.
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Beehaw defederated from LW, not the other way around IIRC
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because it shuts out everyone on that instance.
But it doesn't. Unless they've changed the functionality in the last 3 major revisions or so, a user blocking an instance blocks all posts from that instance. Not the users or their comments on other posts.
It's an easier way than blocking each community from that instance individually.
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A user blocking an instance does not block the users from that instance from interacting with the user who blocked.
It's not well explained, but my understanding is that an instance block just prevents communities from that instance, and posts made by users on thay instance, from showing for the user that blocked the instance. Comments from users of that instance still show for the blocking user, and the block is one way anyway.
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Yeah but it was because of issues on LW that went unresolved. It is very likely that the problem individuals are not even on LW any more. Plus the user tools have changed. Reaching out to mend the bridge should be a top priority for the top instance as should unbanning any and all possible. Such behaviour is the only respectable way to stay at the top and grow Lemmy. If bridges can't be mended, at least document that the effort was made so users of both instances are aware.
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What? what does this even mean, is there an instance dedicated for victims of fascism or something?
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You see, I’m an anarchist. I trust in the power of people to self-organize, self-regulate, and self-police. I am philosophically opposed to whole instances making the call to defederate from another no matter how Nazi or capitalist that instance is.
That's great, but it's not for everyone. What you're saying here is that when bigots appear, every member of the minorities they target needs to individually block the troll, which they can only do after they've been exposed to the bigotry, and which doesn't help them at all in the future when the troll moves to a new throw away account.
Counter intuitively, what you're asking for is exactly how you create spaces that actively discourage diversity.
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I blocked lemmynsfw so that I don’t see straight up porn in my feed but can still see posts labeled nsfw from other instances because a lot of posts that get labeled nsfw are just things like explicit text or the OP labeled it nsfw because it’s not exactly nsfw but also not completely regular either.
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Unfortunately it's still a very weak type of blocking, for you on Lemmy.ca unless you are using an app like Sync or Connect. It's basically a "community mute", equivalent to unsubscribing from all the communities there individually, but unlike user blocking, the users from that instance will still show up in other communities, they can still send you replies, which will trigger Notifications, and therefore they can harass you by continually sending you replies for WEEKS and WEEKS at a time (this actually happened to me twice, once with hexbear.net and another time with lemmygrad.ml).
Anyway, it's better than nothing!
You may be interested to read some of the ways that PieFed is advancing democratization of moderation.
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You can avoid seeing posts from lemmynsfw by just… not subscribing to any communities on lemmynsfw.
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Why not jut have shared block lists that anyone can apsly at their will?
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It used to appear in the “all” feed like every fourth post a while back. Dunno if it still does.
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Folks like you and the hundred other people also "just asking questions" or playing devils advocate" and expecting trans people to engage in a debate as to whether or not we actually deserve equal rights is exactly why this shit never works.
It's interesting to you because it's purely intellectual. To the person having to endlessly argue that they do in fact deserve equal rights, it's a shit fucking experience that we actively seek to disengage from when possible, because it's all around us, all the time.
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they can harass you by continually sending you replies for WEEKS and WEEKS at a time (this actually happened to me twice, once with hexbear.net and another time with lemmygrad.ml).
Honestly you really shouldn't be on an instance that federate with those places to start with.
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::: spoiler I thought about you, moss and sunshine as who I would reach out to before starting a community, if I were to do so. I have no intentions of hurting anyone ever. I understand better than you might think. I grew up a Jehovah's Witness which is quite the outcast way to live. I only ever had a few friends and my closest literally traumatized me by deciding we weren't friends any more one day without a reason or care. Now I'm atheist and stuck living with JW parents and have a sister that is determined to see me homeless and dead. I had a shit social network turned to none. I've never celebrated a holiday or a birthday. I'm always in this world within a world. I can never be myself. I can't have a conversation IRL about any of my interests or who I am without getting preached at despite the fact I know the bullshit far better than the people preaching it. I only get what I need to survive most of the time. Despite spending all of my time in bed, I'm constantly berated like I am just fine when any of my needs are inconvenient. I'm mentally soup after doing anything and I tend to get so little done each day that it is hard to tackle much in the way of projects any more. I'm worn down to the bone. If you knew the slightest about my love life and history OMG is has been my hurricane against a cult like religious hailstorm. I adored my highschool gf, the forbidden outside of faith "worldly" love. Like I moved 2k miles back across the country for her. She was my key to escape the mental cult like prison. There were many more, and stories... I have always had to be closeted about love and interests despite being cis just because I was the wrong kind of cis and even when I was right I was fucking them which was wrong.
Anyways, what I would have looked for in reaching out is where to create safe boundaries because there are so many diverse people here. Maybe it is post tags, maybe it is a ban on certain topics and subjects.
I need people to speak up for me IRL when it comes to some things like disability or to be understanding here because I may not have slept much at all in several days at times and it can be difficult to know how I am doing under that circumstance. I will gladly speak up for you or anyone else and have tried to when I see the chance. I won't be melodramatic, but I will make a dominant argument.
In my personal style, if I play devil's advocate, I enjoy taking the plausible argument that fits the flawed narrative as I see it. Then I take that narrative to the extreme of a systems thinking approach and show where it really leads. I want to make the people who think I am supporting their disposition repulsed enough to second guess themselves not by arguing against them, but by taking their hand and then refusing to let go of their dogma until they are releasing the gas valves in the concentration camp and hate themselves for it within that metal exercise.
If we're going to talk about abortion, then the subject is your own mother with a terminal fetus and you are given the choice of killing your mom or the unborn child and I will make that story vivid and personal.
There are many little details about transgender stuff I would like to explore more in depth without polarity in a safe space. Like where should we completely eliminate gender dichotomy. I think cycling as a sport should be integrated completely because there are niches for every body type. Most sports probably should be integrated. The whole restrooms thing would have bothered me before cycling and atheism because I was insecure. Now I wear my tightest undies in public daily so IDGAF in the slightest.
Also BTW, I say a lot about being very liberal as a mod and trying to get others to do the same. I am a quiet mod with a big stick. I have not and will not be passive about standing against bigotry. I'm for free speech but only in the context of debate with some very clearly defined limits to what that means.
If anything I want better arguments and understanding when I have the opportunity to speak up. I don't want to be the person that argues. I want to be the person that asks the one question that destroys a bigot's confidence. I need a deep intuitive understanding of the issues for that kind of insight. I don't want that at a cost to you or anyone else. I will find other ways to learn over time if need be.
Like I said, I don't think Lemmy is capable of this at all anyways. That is why I did not reach out, that and there is too much tension already on Lemmy right now. When I make debate like discussions or philosophical posts, I mostly get dumb responses and negativity in reply here.
Anyways, I'm trying to say, I understand, and genuinely care more than you may realize. - with love from an internet friend
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