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  • S [email protected]

    How is Hyper Text Markup Language not a programming language? Now JavaScript and CSS are arcane rituals, but html is well behaved.

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    How is it a programming language? It's a markup language. There's no logic, variables or any way to manipulate data.

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    • M [email protected]

      Can someone clarify what the answer should be and what was the answer on the show?

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      There is a running joke that some people falsely consider HTML a programming language which it is not. So it's D. I didn't watch the show but I assume that's it and the joke is that the audience's majority took alien language

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      • A [email protected]

        That’s why it should be “none of the above”. And if there’s a “all of the above”, it must come right before the “none of the above”.

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        They're not above. One of them is to the left.

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        • G [email protected]

          It’s right there in the name: it’s a markup language. Hyper Text Markup Language. HTML.

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          That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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            Is Machine Language even a well defined thing? I would think of assembly but I don't know where to draw the line

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            • E [email protected]

              It's basically gambling on the nerdiness of the question's writer. Do they think HTML is a programming language? Do they know that people think it's a programming language and trying to trap them? Do they know it's not a programming language but also know most people would think it is one and so are using the common, loose definition of a programming language in order not to trap people?

              My brain would melt

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              Mine wouldn't.

              It is a quiz, they know what they are talking about if they put the question in. And if they don't, you get to call out the quiz master for being wrong.

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              • G [email protected]

                It’s right there in the name: it’s a markup language. Hyper Text Markup Language. HTML.

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                There is a difference between “markup language” and “programming language”.

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                • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                  What about Excel? First reply I got said it has to make programs, right? I can make a Tetris clone in Excel. 🤣

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                  We aren't talking about Excel, but about Word.

                  We do that to explain that HTML is nothing more than to display text in a certain layout, just like a Word document. The only difference is that Word is designed to be printed, while HTML is designed to display on a website.

                  Also, exclude VBA as well as macros. VBA is a programming language.

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                  • lnxtx@feddit.nlL [email protected]

                    Or address them:

                    Either* A, B, C;
                    
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                    Is only A supposed to be a pointer?

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                    • L [email protected]

                      That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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                      Ok, but hear me out. Have you seen most Python code?

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                      • K [email protected]

                        Ok, but hear me out. Have you seen most Python code?

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                        Point taken

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                        • qubaxr@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

                          A "Markup Language" to be precise. HyperText Markup Language.

                          Yea my parties are the best parties, too.

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                          That's the word, it did feel wrong with formatting!
                          We should party together sometimes! 😄

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                            Point taken

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                            From Gryffindor and awarded to Slytherin

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                              How is it a programming language? It's a markup language. There's no logic, variables or any way to manipulate data.

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                              It's right there in the name, but then there's CFML, which is unpopular, but it definitely features logic, variables, and data manipulation.

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                                That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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                                The name itself doesn't determine the meaning.

                                The name in this case is defined by the meaning if you will. Programming languages are used to write programs. A HTML file is much closer to a PDF than to what can be considered a program.

                                Also fun fact python is named after the comedy group Monty Python rather than the snake.

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  How is Hyper Text Markup Language not a programming language? Now JavaScript and CSS are arcane rituals, but html is well behaved.

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                                  Can you write a program in HTML?

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                                  • L [email protected]

                                    That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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                                    Fun fact python was named after Monty python, not the snake.

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                                    • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

                                      The name itself doesn't determine the meaning.

                                      The name in this case is defined by the meaning if you will. Programming languages are used to write programs. A HTML file is much closer to a PDF than to what can be considered a program.

                                      Also fun fact python is named after the comedy group Monty Python rather than the snake.

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                                      Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.

                                      PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.

                                      PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.

                                      Here's a small example:

                                      /ANGLE {
                                         newpath
                                         100 0 moveto
                                         0 0 lineto
                                         100 50 lineto
                                         stroke
                                      } def
                                      
                                      10 setlinewidth
                                      0 setlinejoin
                                      100 200 translate
                                      ANGLE
                                      
                                      1 setlinejoin
                                      0 70 translate
                                      ANGLE
                                      
                                      2 setlinejoin
                                      0 70 translate
                                      ANGLE
                                      

                                      As such, PDF that's actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.

                                      Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        How is Hyper Text Markup Language not a programming language? Now JavaScript and CSS are arcane rituals, but html is well behaved.

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                                        It is in the name. It is a markup language, not a programming/scripting language.

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.

                                          PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.

                                          PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.

                                          Here's a small example:

                                          /ANGLE {
                                             newpath
                                             100 0 moveto
                                             0 0 lineto
                                             100 50 lineto
                                             stroke
                                          } def
                                          
                                          10 setlinewidth
                                          0 setlinejoin
                                          100 200 translate
                                          ANGLE
                                          
                                          1 setlinejoin
                                          0 70 translate
                                          ANGLE
                                          
                                          2 setlinejoin
                                          0 70 translate
                                          ANGLE
                                          

                                          As such, PDF that's actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.

                                          Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.

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                                          Consider me outjerked 🎩🤏

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