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    Can someone clarify what the answer should be and what was the answer on the show?

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    There is a running joke that some people falsely consider HTML a programming language which it is not. So it's D. I didn't watch the show but I assume that's it and the joke is that the audience's majority took alien language

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    • A [email protected]

      That’s why it should be “none of the above”. And if there’s a “all of the above”, it must come right before the “none of the above”.

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      They're not above. One of them is to the left.

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      • G [email protected]

        It’s right there in the name: it’s a markup language. Hyper Text Markup Language. HTML.

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        That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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          Is Machine Language even a well defined thing? I would think of assembly but I don't know where to draw the line

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            It's basically gambling on the nerdiness of the question's writer. Do they think HTML is a programming language? Do they know that people think it's a programming language and trying to trap them? Do they know it's not a programming language but also know most people would think it is one and so are using the common, loose definition of a programming language in order not to trap people?

            My brain would melt

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            Mine wouldn't.

            It is a quiz, they know what they are talking about if they put the question in. And if they don't, you get to call out the quiz master for being wrong.

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            • G [email protected]

              It’s right there in the name: it’s a markup language. Hyper Text Markup Language. HTML.

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              There is a difference between “markup language” and “programming language”.

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              • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                What about Excel? First reply I got said it has to make programs, right? I can make a Tetris clone in Excel. 🤣

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                We aren't talking about Excel, but about Word.

                We do that to explain that HTML is nothing more than to display text in a certain layout, just like a Word document. The only difference is that Word is designed to be printed, while HTML is designed to display on a website.

                Also, exclude VBA as well as macros. VBA is a programming language.

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                • lnxtx@feddit.nlL [email protected]

                  Or address them:

                  Either* A, B, C;
                  
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                  Is only A supposed to be a pointer?

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                  • L [email protected]

                    That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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                    Ok, but hear me out. Have you seen most Python code?

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                    • K [email protected]

                      Ok, but hear me out. Have you seen most Python code?

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                      Point taken

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                      • qubaxr@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

                        A "Markup Language" to be precise. HyperText Markup Language.

                        Yea my parties are the best parties, too.

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                        That's the word, it did feel wrong with formatting!
                        We should party together sometimes! 😄

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                          Point taken

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                          From Gryffindor and awarded to Slytherin

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                            How is it a programming language? It's a markup language. There's no logic, variables or any way to manipulate data.

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                            It's right there in the name, but then there's CFML, which is unpopular, but it definitely features logic, variables, and data manipulation.

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                            • L [email protected]

                              That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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                              The name itself doesn't determine the meaning.

                              The name in this case is defined by the meaning if you will. Programming languages are used to write programs. A HTML file is much closer to a PDF than to what can be considered a program.

                              Also fun fact python is named after the comedy group Monty Python rather than the snake.

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                              • S [email protected]

                                How is Hyper Text Markup Language not a programming language? Now JavaScript and CSS are arcane rituals, but html is well behaved.

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                                Can you write a program in HTML?

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                                • L [email protected]

                                  That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

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                                  Fun fact python was named after Monty python, not the snake.

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                                  • venus_ziegenfalle@feddit.orgV [email protected]

                                    The name itself doesn't determine the meaning.

                                    The name in this case is defined by the meaning if you will. Programming languages are used to write programs. A HTML file is much closer to a PDF than to what can be considered a program.

                                    Also fun fact python is named after the comedy group Monty Python rather than the snake.

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                                    Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.

                                    PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.

                                    PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.

                                    Here's a small example:

                                    /ANGLE {
                                       newpath
                                       100 0 moveto
                                       0 0 lineto
                                       100 50 lineto
                                       stroke
                                    } def
                                    
                                    10 setlinewidth
                                    0 setlinejoin
                                    100 200 translate
                                    ANGLE
                                    
                                    1 setlinejoin
                                    0 70 translate
                                    ANGLE
                                    
                                    2 setlinejoin
                                    0 70 translate
                                    ANGLE
                                    

                                    As such, PDF that's actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.

                                    Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.

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                                    • S [email protected]

                                      How is Hyper Text Markup Language not a programming language? Now JavaScript and CSS are arcane rituals, but html is well behaved.

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                                      It is in the name. It is a markup language, not a programming/scripting language.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.

                                        PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.

                                        PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.

                                        Here's a small example:

                                        /ANGLE {
                                           newpath
                                           100 0 moveto
                                           0 0 lineto
                                           100 50 lineto
                                           stroke
                                        } def
                                        
                                        10 setlinewidth
                                        0 setlinejoin
                                        100 200 translate
                                        ANGLE
                                        
                                        1 setlinejoin
                                        0 70 translate
                                        ANGLE
                                        
                                        2 setlinejoin
                                        0 70 translate
                                        ANGLE
                                        

                                        As such, PDF that's actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.

                                        Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.

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                                        Consider me outjerked 🎩🤏

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                                        • L [email protected]

                                          There is a running joke that some people falsely consider HTML a programming language which it is not. So it's D. I didn't watch the show but I assume that's it and the joke is that the audience's majority took alien language

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                                          Interestingly C and D are both programming languages. That is, there is a programming languages called C and another, D.

                                          I'll see myself out...

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