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What's the underrated quote that will stick with you for life?

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  • makingstuffforfun@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

    That'll do Donkey.. That'll do.

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    That's so lovely!

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    • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

      Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

      Mine would be :

      "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

      For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

      Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

      How about you?

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      “It only ever ends once, everything before that is just progress” -Jacob from lost lol

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        "It'll never be the same"
        In context, meaning that things can never go back to the way they were... Ever.

        For me it's like a grounding statement. Whenever I start thinking about some past time and just want things to go back to how they were, I remember this. My mind shifts to the future and I forget that nostalgic feeling because I remember that it can never be.

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        Oh, yeah.
        There's another one like this for me, a very short poem I read when I was a teenager :

        "Ah, what are they dreaming...?
        Those who say, say, say...
        Yesterday I was there, today I was here"

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        • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

          And yet, a WWI soldier uttered that phrase. I suppose he did not share this view of WW1. Or he couldn't have wrote that.

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          I feel I lack some context here. What makes you think he thought it should be avoided? It sounds like he said it was hard and soul-crushing, but there's nothing in the quote to indicate whether he thought it was worth the effort or not.

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          • makingstuffforfun@lemmy.mlM [email protected]

            That'll do Donkey.. That'll do.

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            Have you seen Babe? That's where that quote is from originally

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            • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

              Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

              Mine would be :

              "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

              For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

              Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

              How about you?

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              "Hurt people hurt people"

              Ever since I heard this, I became relatively more compassionate towards people, even if they piss me off.

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              • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                Mine would be :

                "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                How about you?

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                "(S)cience tends to progress through younger people, and old ideas tend to die with the originators of those ideas. through this cynical view, science progresses one coffin at a time."

                the Sting of the wild p142, J.O. Schmidt

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                • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                  Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                  Mine would be :

                  "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                  For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                  Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                  How about you?

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                  A evergreen quote:

                  Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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                  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                    Mine would be :

                    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                    How about you?

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                    Creative minds are uneven, and the best of fabrics have their dull spots.

                    H.P. Lovecraft

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                    • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                      Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                      Mine would be :

                      "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                      For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                      Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                      How about you?

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                      "Who's 'we', paleface?"

                      It's from a silly joke, so it's not meant to be taken seriously. But I remember it every time some politician or Internet dweller or anything in between uses "we" to describe a position, an opinion, etc. Who's 'we'? Do you dream to speak for others, for me? In my stead?

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                      • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                        Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                        Mine would be :

                        "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                        For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                        Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                        How about you?

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                        Be excellent to each other and party on dudes.

                        Genuinely how I try to live my life, be kind and helpful to others and enjoy myself doing it.

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                        • late_night@sopuli.xyzL [email protected]

                          Have you seen Babe? That's where that quote is from originally

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                          I have yes. And I'd forgotten. Thank you. Adds an extra layer.

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                          • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                            Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                            Mine would be :

                            "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                            For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                            Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                            How about you?

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                            No matter how many books , videos you see , you cannot learn how to swim without entering the pool.

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                            • late_night@sopuli.xyzL [email protected]

                              Have you seen Babe? That's where that quote is from originally

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                              I say "That'll do pig" almost daily. It's basically a tic for me at this point.

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                              • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                Mine would be :

                                "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                How about you?

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                                Wen in dbt breath deep

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                                • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                  Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                  Mine would be :

                                  "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                  For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                  Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                  How about you?

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                                  I don't necessarily think it's underrated because it's the underpinning of a major religion, but;

                                  Existence is suffering.

                                  The first noble truth of Buddhism that I don't think enough people really grasp.

                                  On first read, those three words sound like an angsty teen being all sad, but a deeper exploration tells us that to expect a life of ease and unending contentment is to set ourselves up for continued disappointment and anguish.

                                  When I first really absorbed the meaning of this it actually made me feel incredible. I am alive, therefore my knee hurts. I am alive, so I'm worried for the welfare of those I love. And when I considered it even further I began to understand that this is something that connects us all, regardless of our status in the world. From the most powerful kings and presidents to those sleeping rough begging for change; we are all fundamentally the same.

                                  For me, it's really helped me to push through boundaries that have stopped me being more assertive with those who are more powerful than I am; managers, bosses and such. My boss worries about stuff the same way I do. It's probably different stuff, sure, but he's still experiencing existential pain.

                                  I am not a Buddhist, nor am I particularly spiritual. But I take a lot of inspiration from that phrase.

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                                  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                    Mine would be :

                                    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                    How about you?

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                                    Don't let the fear of the time it will take to accomplish something stand in the way of your doing it. The time will pass anyway; we might just as well put that passing time to the best possible use.

                                    Earl Nightingale

                                    Someone shared the phrase "The time will pass anyway" with me back when I was working on getting healthier. It was a constant reminder that there was no "best" day to start my journey and that anytime I was set back, I could pick things back up right away.

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                                    • djdarren@sopuli.xyzD [email protected]

                                      I don't necessarily think it's underrated because it's the underpinning of a major religion, but;

                                      Existence is suffering.

                                      The first noble truth of Buddhism that I don't think enough people really grasp.

                                      On first read, those three words sound like an angsty teen being all sad, but a deeper exploration tells us that to expect a life of ease and unending contentment is to set ourselves up for continued disappointment and anguish.

                                      When I first really absorbed the meaning of this it actually made me feel incredible. I am alive, therefore my knee hurts. I am alive, so I'm worried for the welfare of those I love. And when I considered it even further I began to understand that this is something that connects us all, regardless of our status in the world. From the most powerful kings and presidents to those sleeping rough begging for change; we are all fundamentally the same.

                                      For me, it's really helped me to push through boundaries that have stopped me being more assertive with those who are more powerful than I am; managers, bosses and such. My boss worries about stuff the same way I do. It's probably different stuff, sure, but he's still experiencing existential pain.

                                      I am not a Buddhist, nor am I particularly spiritual. But I take a lot of inspiration from that phrase.

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                                      • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                        Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                        Mine would be :

                                        "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                        For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                        Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                        How about you?

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                                        The woods would be very silent if no birds sang except those who sang best

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                                          I feel I lack some context here. What makes you think he thought it should be avoided? It sounds like he said it was hard and soul-crushing, but there's nothing in the quote to indicate whether he thought it was worth the effort or not.

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                                          Hmm, you're right. I first read this sentence for the first time as an epigraph for a violently anti-patriotic, individualistic, fantastic and oniric book which gave me this impression.
                                          After a bit of digging, I still think there's something of my interpretation in the original material (a lettre from Vaché to Aragon from the battlefield), but it's also a dadaist piece, so not so easy to decipher, in which he wishes for the death of his own generals, somehow talks about killing Germans while wearing a monocle and, all of them soldiers, French and German, being slowly decerebrated. He was fighting and killing although he was still against the war, seemed to be borderline self-destructing, dandy, rebelling, talking multiple times about how war changed him for the worse in both his mind and his body, crippled for life too. He died at 23 from an opium overdose.

                                          So there is certainly more to it, but I suppose my interpretation isn't totally absurd.

                                          More info :

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vaché

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