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What's the underrated quote that will stick with you for life?

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  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

    Mine would be :

    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

    How about you?

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    Not so much a quote as a poem, but it's brief so here's the whole thing:

    They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
    They may not mean to, but they do.
    They fill you with the faults they had
    And add some extra, just for you.

    But they were fucked up in their turn
    By fools in old-style hats and coats,
    Who half the time were soppy-stern
    And half at one another's throats.

    Man hands on misery to man,
    It deepens like a coastal shelf.
    Get out as early as you can,
    And don't have any kids yourself.

    • "This Be the Verse" by Philip Larkin

    As for what it means to me, I think it speaks for itself. It's bleak and devastating, yet beautiful. I love the elegance and simplicity of the writing. It's the only poem I have memorized because it's so aesthetically pleasing and emotionally resonant. It has stuck with me since I first heard it over 10 years ago.

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    • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

      Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

      Mine would be :

      "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

      For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

      Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

      How about you?

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      "Someone once said that love is the best medicine. He was wrong, though; its crack."
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      • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

        Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

        Mine would be :

        "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

        For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

        Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

        How about you?

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        We have liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us for it

        • Marshal Georgy Zhukov
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        • djdarren@sopuli.xyzD [email protected]

          I don't necessarily think it's underrated because it's the underpinning of a major religion, but;

          Existence is suffering.

          The first noble truth of Buddhism that I don't think enough people really grasp.

          On first read, those three words sound like an angsty teen being all sad, but a deeper exploration tells us that to expect a life of ease and unending contentment is to set ourselves up for continued disappointment and anguish.

          When I first really absorbed the meaning of this it actually made me feel incredible. I am alive, therefore my knee hurts. I am alive, so I'm worried for the welfare of those I love. And when I considered it even further I began to understand that this is something that connects us all, regardless of our status in the world. From the most powerful kings and presidents to those sleeping rough begging for change; we are all fundamentally the same.

          For me, it's really helped me to push through boundaries that have stopped me being more assertive with those who are more powerful than I am; managers, bosses and such. My boss worries about stuff the same way I do. It's probably different stuff, sure, but he's still experiencing existential pain.

          I am not a Buddhist, nor am I particularly spiritual. But I take a lot of inspiration from that phrase.

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          I think schopenhauer's quote:

          to overcome difficulties if to experience the full delight of existence context

          is a corollary of sorts.

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          • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

            Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

            Mine would be :

            "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

            For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

            Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

            How about you?

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            Hitchens on the death of Jerry Falwell: "If they gave his corpse an enema, they could bury him in a matchbox."

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              "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt" - Often wrongly attributed to Mark Twain or Abraham Lincoln but the earliest record is Maurice Switzer

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              Mine is similar, but said by Plato. ”Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something”

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              • bennieandthez@lemmygrad.mlB [email protected]

                It is said that cameras don't lie, but we must remember that liars use cameras. - Michael Parenti

                This is a statement on the bias of all media, i like to use the same quote regarding statistics too.

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                I've heard that something like 67.3% of statistics are made up on the spot and 95.2% of people believe then whether they're accurate or not - especially if there's a decimal involved.

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                • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                  Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                  Mine would be :

                  "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                  For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                  Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                  How about you?

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                  The pleasure of being understood is underrated

                  • Simon Baker portraying Patrick Jane in The Mentalist
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                  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                    Mine would be :

                    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                    How about you?

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                    Perhaps today is a good day to die. Prepare for ramming speed!

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                    • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                      Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                      Mine would be :

                      "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                      For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                      Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                      How about you?

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                      Should I kill myself, or have a cup of coffee? But in the end one needs more courage to live than to kill himself.
                      ~ Camus

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                      • agnomeunknown@lemmy.mlA [email protected]

                        Not so much a quote as a poem, but it's brief so here's the whole thing:

                        They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
                        They may not mean to, but they do.
                        They fill you with the faults they had
                        And add some extra, just for you.

                        But they were fucked up in their turn
                        By fools in old-style hats and coats,
                        Who half the time were soppy-stern
                        And half at one another's throats.

                        Man hands on misery to man,
                        It deepens like a coastal shelf.
                        Get out as early as you can,
                        And don't have any kids yourself.

                        • "This Be the Verse" by Philip Larkin

                        As for what it means to me, I think it speaks for itself. It's bleak and devastating, yet beautiful. I love the elegance and simplicity of the writing. It's the only poem I have memorized because it's so aesthetically pleasing and emotionally resonant. It has stuck with me since I first heard it over 10 years ago.

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                        It's beautiful and I can understand why it sticks.. Thanks for letting us know!!

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                          "Like they should have stopped Hitler at Munich, they should never let him get away with that, they was just asking for bad trouble." Peter Clemenza, The Godfather

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                          Recently, I learned about a historical quote, from French PM Daladier on his way back from Munich where he knew he gave everything to Hitler.

                          He got out his plane, expecting to be lynched or thrown oranges at, and people, when he realized people were praising him as a herald of "peace", let out this magnificent "Ah.. what a bunch of idiots".

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                          • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                            Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                            Mine would be :

                            "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                            For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                            Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                            How about you?

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                            "be someones angel"

                            quote from this little video that really stuck with me, as silly as it might sound

                            https://youtu.be/Ib2bt28in1c

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                              "be someones angel"

                              quote from this little video that really stuck with me, as silly as it might sound

                              https://youtu.be/Ib2bt28in1c

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                              I suppose it's less about the quote origin and more about what we make it to mean 🙂

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                                "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
                                -A clump of talking stars in Futurama
                                I look at it like being a good custodian or someone who takes pride in the smallest details of their work, regardless of whether or not you receive recognition for them. Most people don't notice the effort being put in when things are running smoothly. The work of the people behind the scenes is directly responsible for successes in the spotlight.

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                                That's a loose quote from the Tao te ching.

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                                  That's a loose quote from the Tao te ching.

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                                  Interesting. Something new to look up!

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                                  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                    Mine would be :

                                    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                    How about you?

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                                    Life's tough for everyone

                                    -Grandpa

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                                      "Who's 'we', paleface?"

                                      It's from a silly joke, so it's not meant to be taken seriously. But I remember it every time some politician or Internet dweller or anything in between uses "we" to describe a position, an opinion, etc. Who's 'we'? Do you dream to speak for others, for me? In my stead?

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                                      Love this one. Used to teach students in political science about the horrible thing that "political ventiloquism" is.

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                                      • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                        “No matter where you go, there you are.”

                                        Made absolutely no sense to me when I was younger. Now, I get that it means changing one’s location or situation in an effort to avoid something doesn’t work. You’re still you, you’re there, and the problem still exists. Obviously some situations can be improved by leaving them, so the statement isn’t completely correct, but there’s plenty of truth to it.

                                        “You can never go home again” also used to bug me, because of course you can physically return to the places you grew up. But if you’ve been away a good while the place you grew up in might have changed, the people will have changed, and you will also have changed. Home will be where you have made a new life. Your old home will be like trying to put on a shoe you haven’t worn in a few years. Yeah, it fits, but it doesn’t feel right. It’s not comfortable like it used to feel. Home isn’t there anymore. I kinda envy some people that I know who never left my hometown. They have the same friends, been hanging out for years, still get together for family stuff…but at the same time I’ve experienced a shitload more than they have. My original home doesn’t exist for me anymore.

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                                        "You can never go home again... but you can shop there."

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                                        • djdarren@sopuli.xyzD [email protected]

                                          I don't necessarily think it's underrated because it's the underpinning of a major religion, but;

                                          Existence is suffering.

                                          The first noble truth of Buddhism that I don't think enough people really grasp.

                                          On first read, those three words sound like an angsty teen being all sad, but a deeper exploration tells us that to expect a life of ease and unending contentment is to set ourselves up for continued disappointment and anguish.

                                          When I first really absorbed the meaning of this it actually made me feel incredible. I am alive, therefore my knee hurts. I am alive, so I'm worried for the welfare of those I love. And when I considered it even further I began to understand that this is something that connects us all, regardless of our status in the world. From the most powerful kings and presidents to those sleeping rough begging for change; we are all fundamentally the same.

                                          For me, it's really helped me to push through boundaries that have stopped me being more assertive with those who are more powerful than I am; managers, bosses and such. My boss worries about stuff the same way I do. It's probably different stuff, sure, but he's still experiencing existential pain.

                                          I am not a Buddhist, nor am I particularly spiritual. But I take a lot of inspiration from that phrase.

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                                          I buy a lottery ticket every week. Not because I think I stand a chance of winning but I am renting the idea that I could solve 95% of my problems instantly.

                                          I wont win, I'll still have problems I know this but that $10 a week is me renting hope.

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