You can see who upvoted and downvoted a post by viewing it in friendica.
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Yes, but as long as you don’t reveal your identity, they can’t do much to track you.
They don’t have access to your IP.
Of course, it you’re using the same username over multiple services, or reveal identifying information (which is much easier to analyse now due to AI) they will be able to track you.
Is IP not logged anywhere in Lemmy/ ActivityPub?
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Is IP not logged anywhere in Lemmy/ ActivityPub?
Nope just server
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Ah, well that sucks
i thought it just used a different strategy to do so if it was trusted, not outright disable it.Will correct it, thanks
IIRC PieFed’s method is to send the upvote using a second random username not connected to your username.
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Is IP not logged anywhere in Lemmy/ ActivityPub?
I think server admins can access. It makes sense moderation wise, if for keeping a tab on alts alts and enforcing permabans.
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Well yes, the whole concept of the fediverse is that of social media as a public service. All activitypub data is public.
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Well yes, the whole concept of the fediverse is that of social media as a public service. All activitypub data is public.
So you're agreeing with me that it will be abused.
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So you're agreeing with me that it will be abused.
Not them but yes but it's not a feature of the system, it's a failure of the humans.
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Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.
I wish friendica had a mobile app. I spend more time on my phone
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I wish friendica had a mobile app. I spend more time on my phone
Its webui is responsive (i think), its compatible with the mastodon api.
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I wish friendica had a mobile app. I spend more time on my phone
Raccoon for Friendica is great if you're on Android.
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This feature has been available to all kbin/Mbin users since the beginning, btw.
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Not them but yes but it's not a feature of the system, it's a failure of the humans.
What is it that you mean by that? Do you mind rephrasing your reply?
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How would that work? How would an admin separate downvotes from brigaders and legitimate users who happen to downvote a comment?
Banning trolls would be doable - they'd have patterns where they target specific users across many different communities. If the same user downvotes everything I've ever said, from controversial political takes to pictures of food to posts about gardening, that's probably a malicious user.
But "brigading" doesn't mean anything and I don't respect the concept. You can't ban it because you can't define it in a way that doesn't include normal usage of the site.
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This feature has been available to all kbin/Mbin users since the beginning, btw.
I wanna say it was built into Lemmy originally as well but they removed it from the FE
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What can they use that data for?
It would only be usable data if they could show personalized ads to the users. They can’t.
All they know is that Meldrik up/downvoted this and that, but outside of Lemmy they have no idea who Meldrik is.
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What is it that you mean by that? Do you mind rephrasing your reply?
Tools do not have morality or ethics, only people do. Some people use tools in a morally and/or ethically questionable manner, either for profit or because it amuses them.
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What is it that you mean by that? Do you mind rephrasing your reply?
It's the age old argument of "It's not Communism that's bad, it's the human element."
Speaking as if any system created by humans will ever be free of the human element, which is of course faulty logic.
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Banning trolls would be doable - they'd have patterns where they target specific users across many different communities. If the same user downvotes everything I've ever said, from controversial political takes to pictures of food to posts about gardening, that's probably a malicious user.
But "brigading" doesn't mean anything and I don't respect the concept. You can't ban it because you can't define it in a way that doesn't include normal usage of the site.
If the same user downvotes everything I’ve ever said,
Right. How would you know what "the same user" is? Let's say that your posts get downvoted at random intervals by 5-10 users in the first 45-120 minutes. They all have different user names. What are you going to do? Create a report against any particular user and hope that the mods look into it?
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One of the advantages of votes being public is that it keeps instance owners honest and, perhaps more importantly, means they know other instance owners are honest.
If they weren't public it would be easy to modify your lemmy instance to send 10 votes with fake hashes for every real vote. There would be constant accusations of brigading and faking votes.
I'm honestly surprised it hasn't already become rampant.
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Upvotes seem to just federate as likes and dislikes.
How to fo that?
