‘We will soon be next’: German leaders sound alarm on Trump’s Ukraine plan
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No, it's objectively not unfounded. Again, you might call it irrational, but that's not the same thing.
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He is Putin's stooge. Trump LOVES dictators and billionaires, because he wants to be, or be seen as, both of those things. You might ask why the Israelis preferred Trump over Biden/Kamala even though the latter were as much supportive of Israel as Trump is. The reason is that Trump's rhetoric is stronger and more direct, and on top of that, he is a VERY easily manipulatible bitch despite his reputation and personal belief that he is uncontrollable. The other elites know this, and this is why he is popular with them even if he is an absolute disaster for most people.
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everyone shoulda been gearing up to defend the world from russian imperialism ever since it became clear putin was dictator for life in 2007 or 8. there have been clear and obvious signs this was coming for nearly two decades now and yet all our leaders are somehow shocked, appalled, and on their backfoot. like where y'all been? putin became dictator for life, invaded Crimea, anexed it, fucked around in everyone else's politics giving us donnie dickhead, donnie dickhead extorted Ukraine, them and all their authoritarian buddies bungled (perhaps purposefully) flattening the curce, putin invaded Ukraine wholesale seeking to wipe it off the map, put even more money into the streets to get donnie dickhead back, and now we're here. with people somehow surprised by this latest step in russia's path along aleksander dugin's foundations of geopolitics. how are any of these leaders surprised? its all laid out in foundations of geopolitics, project russia, and project 2025. i'm just some farm country idiot in the hills of appalachia, but somehow i can see all this and these world leaders can't?
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So he just wants to go tickle Putins balls. Unless he's there trying to sell Europe and NATO.
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So sad to hear.
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You arent wrong. Obamas great sin wasnt the tan suit, it was playing defense against Russia. It doest mater how strong you are or how weak your enemy is, if they only need to land one lucky shot to win you cant let them shoot indefinately without firing back. Then Biden made the same mistake...and here we are.
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Sounds like sweden is just pushing the blame to germany. Populism at its finest
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Arguing about Chernobyl is about the dumbest thing to do.
It was very old reactor, no other like that is in Germany, therefore it's unfounded.
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No, fear doesn't work like that. Just because something is unlikely doesn't mean it can't happen, and fear tends to be about just those things.
Again, you can call it irrational, but it is objectively not unfounded. There is a foundation, even if it's unlikely. You don't get to change the meaning of the word "unfounded" just because you think something isn't likely to happen.
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And who’s going to defend the world from American imperialism?? (42 invasions since the end of WW2, 5 invasions since 2000, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Greenland…)
We Europeans have an enemy and that enemy is usa (it’s always been)
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all imperialism is a threat to everyone everywhere, be it russian, american, or chinese
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Again, there aren't those reactors in service. End of story.
Coal puts out more radioactivity into air, yet nobody mentions that. So fuck this 'founded' fear. It's not real.
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I don't know if you're trolling. Of course people aren't afraid of exactly these reactors blowing up again. They are afraid of nuclear accidents in general. There's always a chance for things to go wrong, otherwise we wouldn't have had Fukushima a couple of years ago. Some link in the chain can always fuck up.
"Coal puts out more radioactivity into air" is an incredibly stupid point. "More radioactivity" than what? People aren't going through the same precautions they had to when they lived through the last fallout. That's not real.
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biggest military lifting in europe was done by germans.
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That would risk direct conflict between nuclear powers. I'm not sure that's a gamble we should take.
I'm not sure we shouldn't take it either. I don't know, really. But it's scary.
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Were there any precautions in Germany after Chernobyl? I'm from eastern Europe and there weren't any.
Nuclear disasters are not happening despite there being hundreds of plants in operation. It's all just FUD spread by the fossil lobby.
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The US fostered this and the EU was happy to accept it. It worked out reasonably well for everyone until about checks watch right now.
The EU got to under fund and under prepare their military, and the US was effectively buying soft power and security around the world. It's why the US able to basically unilaterally drag a coalition into Iraq.
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Yes, lots. After the accident a bunch of places in Germany measured far higher-than-normal radiation levels. There were lots of unclear signals going through the government and media - the different states had different recommendations and there were lots of confusing/opposing signals going through the government and media. Some examples:
- the government recommended taking iodine tablet, which promptly sold out
- people were scared of the rain being sour, so they really tried not going out during/after
- people sprayed down their children after playing outside for fear of residue
- confusing/cautionary signals around fresh dairy and produce meant that many only consumed canned goods for a while
All of this happened during the formative years of a large part of our population. Can you understand how this does give a foundation to the fear?
Nuclear disasters are not happening despite there being hundreds of plants in operation. It’s all just FUD spread by the fossil lobby.
One happened a couple of years ago, and I guarantee you more will happen - as long as humans are involved in the cycle, things can and will go wrong. Modern designs make this far less likely and hopefully reduce the worst outcomes by a lot, but how sure are you that all our reactors are secured against e.g. sabotage? What if an enemy nation invades and gains control of the reactor? What if individual systems get attacked by drones? We're entering a new age - don't underestimate what terrible things can happen this time around.
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I'm not that well versed, but I would expect modern designs be unable to be used as a weapon, at least easily. When someone brings heavy equipment (and I will file Fukushima under a 'very heavy forces'), they can do anything. Putting the blame on nuclear is again just fearmongering.
Thank you for providing me more info about the Germany at that time. Did that happen throughout, or just the west part? Because IIRC the east block was celebrating First May like it was no big deal.
I get that people may be scared, but again that's now how things work. Coal is 100 times more radioactive than nuclear plant, so building them to 100% put radioactive material around them is absolutely stupid, when the same people are scared of one nuclear plant blowing up 39 years ago.
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Dude, the places that measured 50x the normal amount of radiation aren't measuring 50x the amount right now. I'm aware that coal adds radioactive material to the air, but that's just not relevant to the topic. But I'm tired of explaining that, have a good one.
